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Paris riots show difficulty of fighting climate change with taxes
Syracuse.com ^ | December 6, 2018 | by AP

Posted on 12/06/2018 10:09:37 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

PARIS -- The "yellow vests" in France are worrying greens around the world.

The worst riots in Paris in decades were sparked by higher fuel taxes, and French President Emmanuel Macron responded by scrapping them Wednesday. But taxes on fossil fuels are just what international climate negotiators, meeting in Poland this week, say are desperately needed to help wean the world off of fossil fuels and slow climate change.

Macron said the higher tax was his way of trying to prevent the end of the world. But the yellow vest protesters turned that around with the slogan: "it's hard to talk about the end of the world while we are talking about the end of the month."

The resistance to the fuel tax is a personal blow to Macron, who sees himself as the guarantor of the 2015 Paris climate accord, its strongest defender on the global stage. He has positioned himself as the anti-Trump when it comes to climate issues.

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If they can't "fight" Global Warming with tax increases, it will just wither away. Tax increases were its entire raison d'etre.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 12/06/2018 10:30:59 AM PST by ml/nj (.)
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To: butlerweave

When people are economically pinched, “climate change” quickly fades from priorities. Now Western whites are being told that climate change generated by our industries has impoverished darker people around the world, and we OWE them. The trillions pissed away in aid isn’t enough, they want MO’ MONEY.


22 posted on 12/06/2018 10:31:17 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Paris riots show difficulty of fighting climate change with taxes

Gotta fix that.

Paris riots show difficulty of fighting climate change forcing your people to do your bidding with taxes

23 posted on 12/06/2018 10:31:22 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: mrmeyer
Paris riots show difficulty of fighting tryanny without rifles.

Yeah, well you do have to admire this group sticking to proven traditional methods...


24 posted on 12/06/2018 10:31:52 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: kearnyirish2

Some humans are very parasitic and unproductive.


25 posted on 12/06/2018 10:32:08 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They do not want to know that at night the Earth radiates most of the heat that it received from the Sun during the day.

That is a process that man has no ability to mess with. If you heat up the Earth a little bit more during the day, the heat is sent out to space.


26 posted on 12/06/2018 10:32:53 AM PST by I want the USA back (There are two sexes: male (pronoun HE), and female (pronoun SHE). Denial of this is insanity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Everybody loves global warming as a parlor game for virtue signaling. However, enthusiasm drops when it hits lifestyle or pocketbook.


27 posted on 12/06/2018 10:34:21 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Liberal elitists want us to believe its our fault there’s climate change.

And they compound one lie with another by forcing to pay for it.

People just love more taxes! Um, no they don’t.

The real problem isn’t what’s wrong with the environment; its with the arrogance and rapacious appetite of our leaders.


28 posted on 12/06/2018 10:40:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s always plan B for climate change, which was massive population reduction and economic collapse


29 posted on 12/06/2018 10:44:28 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: freedumb2003

They are trying to slow boil the frogs but they keep jumping out of the pot.


30 posted on 12/06/2018 10:49:08 AM PST by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: hal ogen

It is beyond that; the former colonies want the former colonial masters to administer again. They’ll risk everything to get back under the care of the white devils. Self-determination for the Third World has failed.


31 posted on 12/06/2018 10:59:37 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is hard to force the peons to pay for the kings dreams.


32 posted on 12/06/2018 11:00:00 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Taxes would not reduce “warming”.

It is a scam to increase Gov’t revenue.


33 posted on 12/06/2018 11:03:14 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Paris riots show difficulty of fighting climate change with taxes

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Uh. No.

What the rebellion in France shows is that con artists can push too far in shearing their sheep. And once all that sheep skin is removed, they may well find ravening wolves underneath.

AGW is a con. It has been from the start. It’s perpetuated by liars and idiots and serves only to provide the politicals a rich tax feeding ground with which to enrich themselves and their masters.


34 posted on 12/06/2018 11:05:20 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

35 posted on 12/06/2018 11:12:41 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: LeonardFMason

“it’s hard to talk about the end of the world while we are talking about the end of the month.”


It’s even harder when the end of the world is pure fantasy whereas the end of the month is pure reality.


36 posted on 12/06/2018 11:21:38 AM PST by miniTAX
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To: Oldexpat

“They are trying to slow boil the frogs but they keep jumping out of the pot.”


No frog has ever been slow boiled. It’s a legend peddled by science illiterate con artists like Al Gore.


37 posted on 12/06/2018 11:25:30 AM PST by miniTAX
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The article is filled with quotes from various "Environmental economists" based in American universities. One thing is clear from their quotes - they haven't learned any valid lessons from the Paris riots.

None of them sees this as a major setback, but just as a minor bump on the road.

None of them question the validity of raising fuel taxes. Rather, the only problem is with *HOW* it was done.

For example, it should have been spun differently (they called it a "fuel tax," which was the "wrong name" for it). Or it would have worked if a different person had introduced it (not Macron, because his popularity figures were already low). Or they should have combined the stick with a carrot or two, to soften the blow. Etc etc.

Bottom Line: there was absolutely nothing wrong with the plan. It was just rolled out wrong.

Here's a typical quote:

"Is it a death knell for the carbon tax or pricing carbon? I don't think so," economist Yohe said. "It is just a call for being a little bit more careful about how you design the damn thing."

Sound familiar? This is the exact same thing that these inmates of institutions of Higher Learning were saying about Communism when it collapsed. "Nothing fundamentally wrong with Communism itself. It's just that Communism has never actually been tried. It was just implemented wrong, and needs a few minor tweaks to make it work perfect. And it was rolled out wrong. Or by the wrong people. Come on, give us another chance to correct it and try again!"

38 posted on 12/06/2018 11:32:09 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: chris37
Do people have any concept at all of just how stupid they actually are?

I think that is like trying to kiss your own elbow.

39 posted on 12/06/2018 11:36:32 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Tact is the ability to tell someone to Go To Hell in such a way they look forward to the trip.


40 posted on 12/06/2018 11:43:48 AM PST by oldasrocks (rump)
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