Posted on 11/21/2018 6:19:25 AM PST by artichokegrower
You’re crammed in a room, shoulder-to-shoulder with 100 other passengers.
It’s dark. It smells. It’s wet and very cold. There’s no privacy. No bathrooms. Your meals are pitiful — salted meat and a hard, dry biscuit. You, and people around you are sick, because the room is rocking side to side. There’s no fresh water and no change of clean clothes. In essence, you‘re trapped because land is thousands of miles away.
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:: People yes. A nation no. ::
And the indigenous animists were not interested in claiming large tracts of land as a “nation”, per se.
No doubt grateful for that cold.
Yes. If no cold, then one less freeper.
They were settlers in unclaimed land. They were not immigrants. Earlier settlers - so called native Americans - did not acknowledge either ownership of the land or governmental authority over the land. The European establishment of territories created controls over immigration and citizenship.
The Pilgrims had it easy compared to my flight to Sacramento.
LOL
Water kills
Ale does not
British pubs function to provide the daily need for liquid where the water is deadly
Even in the age of bottled water, pubs apparently prevail.
If you really want to upset liberals, tell them that in hindsight, the Wapanoag Indians probably wished they had their own border wall and ICE back in 1619
Women w/ hairy armpits and legs, crewcuts, no bras and slept w/ each other. LESBOs. Started back in the 60s and has gotten 100x worse today.
Nor could they even if they had wanted to. The absence of any governmental structure would have made administration of sovereignty impossible.
Plus, they were largely nomadic and recognized no individual property rights. Nor did they have wny court system or legal code under which to ajudicate disputes. In other words, they were tribes, not nations.
In 1620 the whole concept of "fresh water" was problematic at best.
And, not knowing different, they treated the new arrivals as tribes.
Stated that the pilgrims were the first illegal alien caravan coming to America.
Pure hog wash it wasn’t a nation it was unsettled country with people that didn’t have the wheel or knew how to sail.
You can’t change history no matter how much they lie.
Bwahahaha!
I’ve got a trip out of Atlanta on Monday.
Your words are so true!
I spent extra $$$ for Comfort+ with no seat in front of me by the entrance door. I sit here whenever I fly Delta (unless I get an upgrade to 1st—finger’s crossed). My feet are cold from the door, and there’s no seat in front of me to stow my stuff, but given the rest of the plane, a good seat.
In fact, the place where Plymouth, Mass was built, was once the Algonquin town of Patuxent. When the Pilgrims arrived the town was abandoned. Not a soul for miles. They all died of some plague or diseases; no one knows what exactly.
William Brewster thought it a sign from God that they should settle there, by land alreasdy cleared for farming (and they were of course—too far North by 100+ miles).
As it turned out, Patuxet was the home town of an Indian named Squanto, who was abducted by the Spanish 10 years before, and taken to Spain as a slave, he escaped, and with help by Spanish and then English monks, settled in England, learned English, and was finally given a “ride” home, only to hear how ALL his people were killed, but the town now had new English settlers living there. Squanto, now a Christian, also saw this as a sign from God, and went to Plymouth to help them in any way he could (we learned in grade school that he taught them to put a dead fish under every corn seed they planted).
It really was an amazing, serendipitous thing!
How could they be illegal aliens when the USA was not formed yet?
“If you check on the ale ‘stock’ onboard, there were two divided areas...one for the crew, and one for the passengers. Not to say all of the 102 sipped ale regularly...but historians kinda note that when they reached US coastline...the stock of Pilgrim ale was nearing an end-point. I might go and suggest that a fair number of Pilgrims were blitzed and never noticed an issue with the crammed nature of the boat.”
John Howland, one of the indentured servants, seems he had a bit too much to drink and was somehow swept overboard, fortunately for him and his descendants, he somehow grabbed a rope and was hauled back on board.
Well at least they made it. The ships the Scots and Irish came over in leaked like a bucket with no bottom and many didnt make it, some not even a few miles out.
The highland clearances were..
While touring the replica Mayflower, my little, Texan Mother-in-Law asked one of the (fully-in-period-character) below-decks docents how the passengers bathed.
Docent: "Mum, the ocean be frightful cold! No sane person would go a-bathin' in it!"
M-I-L: "Well, then, how did you wash yourselves?"
Docent: "Warsh? We din'na warsh!"
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I remember my "mental 'nostrils' clanging shut" -- and remaining so until I climbed back up to the weather deck... <LOL!>
TXnMA
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