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Why did Robin Ventura challenge Nolan Ryan to one of the most memorable brawls in history?
MLB.COM ^ | 08/04/2018 | Eric Chesterton

Posted on 08/04/2018 8:28:30 AM PDT by DFG

Over the course of his 27-year career, Nolan Ryan won 324 games and struck out an all-time best 5,714 batters. It was presumably those feats of longevity and performance that made him a first-ballot Hall of Famer and placed him on a short list of the greatest pitchers of all time. Ryan is also remembered, however, for being involved in one of the most memorable brawls in baseball history -- and being someone you absolutely do not want to mess with.

On Aug. 4, 1993 -- the final season of Ryan's career -- the righty toed the rubber for a start against the White Sox. After Chicago third baseman Robin Ventura hit an RBI single in the first inning on a fastball over the plate, the 46-year-old Ryan was determined to not give him something that good to hit again. So, when Ventura came around again in the third inning, Ryan worked inside and ended up hitting him in the shoulder.

After taking a couple steps toward first base, Ventura decided to charge the mound. Almost immediately, it was quite apparent that he would regret that decision:

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25 years ago today.


1 posted on 08/04/2018 8:28:30 AM PDT by DFG
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Robin was 26. Nolan was 46. Old man rive kicked his butt!


2 posted on 08/04/2018 8:46:09 AM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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Old man and real life cattle rancher. He took down Ventura like he was wrestling a small steer 🤠
3 posted on 08/04/2018 8:49:31 AM PDT by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: DFG
Charging the mound was always a silly escapade.

If you are a hitter and you want to get back at a pitcher who beaned you, you just wait until the next time up and drop a bunt down the first base line. When the pitcher comes over to play it, just wreck him right there on the field.

4 posted on 08/04/2018 8:50:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: DFG

Oops. I missed your face! Lemme fix that for ya!


5 posted on 08/04/2018 8:51:06 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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My favorite pitcher...bought his rookie card...shared with Jerry Koosman...paid $38 for it...sold it to the guy I bought it from several yrs later for $900...he sold it again for $1200. Everybody won...ain’t capitalism great?


6 posted on 08/04/2018 8:51:16 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (17...#1776)
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To: DFG

This was less a brawl and more of a massacre.


7 posted on 08/04/2018 8:59:02 AM PDT by stevem
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It’s always neat to track the obscure history of baseball feuds. Someone will get stuck in the ribs out of the blue, and there is probably a reason for it that potentially goes back aways.

Freegards


8 posted on 08/04/2018 9:05:07 AM PDT by Ransomed
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I don't think Nolan Ryan had Don Drysdale's reputation for brushing batters until they were out of the batter's box.

Nevertheless, and Great Caesar's Ghost(!) Ryan could throw a ball hard. Getting hit by one of his pitches could take a good deal of humor out of an afternoon.

For Ventura, having his head restructured may have felt good in comparison.

9 posted on 08/04/2018 9:05:22 AM PDT by stevem
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10 posted on 08/04/2018 9:08:14 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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Familiar with the fight but didn't know this: Ventura was ejected from the game for charging the mound, and -- as fate would poetically have it -- Grebeck was brought in to run in his stead. Ryan remained in the game and, on the very next pitch he threw, catcher Ivan Rodriguez picked Grebeck off first base.
11 posted on 08/04/2018 9:17:55 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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Indeed, seeing it from this angle, that looks like it probably did feel better than getting hit by a Ryan fastball.

Then, if I was Ventura, I would have learned the valuable insight that a.) choosing your opponent should never be done on whim and b.) to win, the aggressor must vanquish; the defender need only survive.

Ventura got part "b." exactly backwards.

12 posted on 08/04/2018 9:18:11 AM PDT by stevem
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Go Big Tex!


13 posted on 08/04/2018 9:23:49 AM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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And Ryan didn’t even take his glove off.


14 posted on 08/04/2018 9:39:19 AM PDT by Oil Object Insp
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ventura slowed up...if he had continued his charge at full blast, he would have knocked Ryan over so fast....

I still have someplace a signed roster from the olympic team that Ventura was on, plus others, including the one armed guy who's name escapes me...

15 posted on 08/04/2018 10:00:01 AM PDT by cherry (official troll)
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Ventura, as skilled a player as he was, possessed the attitude of the modern, feminized athlete. He was offended that another player would take a hard nosed approach toward him.

Reminds me of the time the Mets and their fans became outraged when shortstop Ruben Tejada turned his back on the play and was taken out by the base runner, Chase Utley of the Dodgers, breaking up the double play. How dare a player make a hard nosed play in a playoff game. Today's professional athletes, as a group, are whining, sniveling losers, unaware of how feminine they have become.

16 posted on 08/04/2018 10:13:21 AM PDT by concentric circles
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That was 25 years ago? Dang.
17 posted on 08/04/2018 10:22:45 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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Utley was a dirty player and that was a dirty play


18 posted on 08/04/2018 10:25:25 AM PDT by onona (It is often wise to allow a person a graceful path.)
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To: cherry

Jim Abbott


19 posted on 08/04/2018 10:26:24 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Oil Object Insp

Ryan did drop his glove. The glove you see is the Rodriguez’s (the catcher).


20 posted on 08/04/2018 10:37:57 AM PDT by Hatteras
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