Posted on 05/07/2018 8:29:42 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
Connecticut’s legislature has passed a bill that would give the state’s Electoral College votes to the presidential candidate who wins the popular vote nationally.
The state Senate voted 21-14 on Saturday to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which includes 10 states and the District of Columbia. The state House passed the measure last week, 77 to 73.
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I don’t think these replies give Pennsylvania its due credit. The ability to “generate” votes, with typically much more than 100% turnout will have an even greater effect on this “popular vote” result than simply larger population.
At least electronic voting means that the San Francisco Bay won’t be choked with ballot boxes, though.
So I guess CT and any other states that follow suit shouldn’t be able to send Reps to DC...correct? Because their voter’s votes don’t count...
http://www.annenbergclassroom.org/page/article-i-section-10
If your interpretation were correct, then states couldn't enter into reciprocity agreements for concealed carry licenses.
“States can direct their electors to vote by any means”
No.
States can APPOINT their electors by any means they choose. They can’t direct them how to vote.
“That sounds unconstitutional; they are disenfranchising their own voters”
The Constitution says nothing about Presidential elections. Popular voting is not part of the Constitutional process for choosing a President, any state could dispense with voters participating in the choice of Electors tomorrow, and that would be perfectly Constitutional.
civil War on horizon
In that case it seems there’re is no point in campaigning in Connecticut.
“If your interpretation were correct, then states couldn’t enter into reciprocity agreements for concealed carry licenses. “
Actually, licenses are covered in other clauses in the Constitution, hence driver’s licenses. The fact they don’t honor them is a constitutional violation.
How short-sighted.
They just abrogated almost any influence they would have in future campaigning and elections.
Most elections since 2000 have been dependent on the Electoral Votes from the small states. They are the ones that swayed several close elections.
Dear Connecticut voter: Your state is telling you that you don’t need to bother to vote! How screwed up is that?
It gives them great leeway, but there are limits. Article 4 Section I states that the states shall guarantee a Republican form of government. The 14th Amendment Article 2 states that if the election doesn’t allow voters to pick their representatives, they lose those representatives. 14th Amendment Article 1 guarantees equal protection under the law, including the right to vote.
in federal elections, MY vote is as important as anybody’s in Conn....this illegal action takes away my vote in favor of group think...
The Connecticut legislature: a cabal of fools.
Is this constitutional?
No big deal anyway. Connecticuit is never going to vote for a Republican anyway. No Republican is ever going to win the national popular vote again either. So in essence, nothing will change.
Wait till the first time a Dem loses popular vote and wins the electoral college!
Call it what you will, the golden rule, karma, whatever but the meltdown in Connecticut is going to be epic and very entertaining when Trump wins the national popular vote in 2020.
‘Going to kill them in 2020, when their electoral votes have to go to Trump even though the state electorate voted for whoever the D was.’
this will not go into effect until states totaling 270 EV’s approve it...2020 won’t be it...
Evidenced by this bill, many (most?) low-information states are now processing electoral votes in ways that violate the 12th Amendment, also unconstitutional agreements between states, winner-take-all rules unconstitutional imo.
Article I, Section 10, Clause 3: "No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State [emphases added], or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; …"
Noting that unconstitutional manipulation of the electoral college is being driven by at the anti-constitutional republic Progressive Movement following unconstitutional federal tax dollars imo, consider the following.
If patriots work with their state lawmakers to support Pres. Trump in leading the states put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by repealing the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments, then citizens would lose interest in the Oval Office imo.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most appropriations laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me
‘So, in other words, they’re giving their vote to California and New York.’
CA and NY do not, and never will, total 270 EV’s...
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