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Restaurant removes iconic photo after sexism outcry (“An American Girl in Italy")
Philly.Com ^ | 11/16/2017 | MICHAEL BRYANT

Posted on 11/21/2017 11:13:51 AM PST by Kid Shelleen

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To: ltc8k6

“The only thing that happened was that Ruth Orkin was wise enough to ask me to turn around and go back and repeat [the walk]… She told the man on motorcycle to tell the other men not to look at the camera.””

So, despite the claims, it is essentially staged.

Several of the men were obviously looking at the camera, and not the woman, and they had to be asked not to look at the camera.


61 posted on 11/21/2017 12:29:52 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: freepertoo

The picture pretty much was the way that Roman men were reacting to my sister when we walked the streets years ago...the fact that she had blond hair made it worse.


62 posted on 11/21/2017 12:30:34 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: xhrist

It was completely staged.

The woman is a model, she was told to walk in a certain place, in a certain way to get a certain reaction, to create a certain image.

Then the scene was shot a second time to get a better take on the reaction, by issuing instructions to the men in the scene. It’s a work of art, not a candid snapshot. It’s world famous and creates a very specific reaction in the people that see it.


63 posted on 11/21/2017 12:33:39 PM PST by babble-on
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To: MNlurker

“It’s not a symbol of harassment. It’s a symbol of a woman having an absolutely wonderful time! I clutched my shawl to me because that sheaths the body. It was my protection, my shield. I was walking through a sea of men. I was enjoying every minute of it.”

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But Jinx insists the men were harmless. “Very few of those men had jobs,” she explains, “Italy was recovering from the war and had really been devastated by it … I can tell you that it wasn’t the intent of any man there to harass me.”


64 posted on 11/21/2017 12:35:00 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Kid Shelleen

PC crybabies may scream for a time, but when they don’t get their way they will lose interest and go scream about something else. There is no good reason I can see to give into any of their demands. And it is a public service not to.


65 posted on 11/21/2017 12:35:57 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Kid Shelleen
Ohmigod, these "intellectual" liberals.....

THAT was the POINT of the picture to begin with!!!! To make you uncomfortable with the scene of an innocent girl being cat-called in the streets.

This is why this photo is considered "art" rather than just a cool snapshot.

66 posted on 11/21/2017 12:47:08 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Kid Shelleen

If you think the girls are mad now just wait til they get their wishes and men STOP pursuing them.


67 posted on 11/21/2017 1:06:13 PM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: JohnyBoy
Not really.
I attend a nondenominational (but fairly fundamentalist) outreach church.
Most of our families have three to six kids. When you view children as God's most precious gift that is what you generally see.

This is one of the major reasons that the left allies with Islam.
The Christian remnant in collapsing degenerate cultures always out-reproduces the immoral dross.

68 posted on 11/21/2017 1:07:04 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Red Badger

I wonder how long regular, normal woman are going to continue to put up with the discrimination, contempt and disdain the radical left has for them.

The progressives want woman to cover their beauty, not celebrate their femininity, to suppress their natural yearning for big, strong men, marrying and having gasp, babies! They want woman to put up with the gutter women hating muslim religion where they can be raped, beat, covered from head to toe and have no free will. They want them to be abused by powerful liberal men and women and remain silent and they want women to put up with perverts in their bathrooms, ogling them and their daughters and God forbid they arm themselves and fight back against abusive husbands or rapist!

Progressives talk a big game about supporting women but progressives have to because of the demeaning and vile crap they demand women put up with in the name if liberal/progressive political ideology.


69 posted on 11/21/2017 1:16:45 PM PST by sarge83
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To: Theo

The look on the girl’s face says it all. I don’t know what people see as acceptable in this photo.


70 posted on 11/21/2017 1:22:30 PM PST by freepertoo
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Craig says "At no time was I unhappy or harassed in Europe"[4] and that "[the photograph is] not a symbol of harassment. It’s a symbol of a woman having an absolutely wonderful time!"[1] and "Italian men are very appreciative, and it’s nice to be appreciated. I wasn't the least bit offended"[5]

Ninalee Craig
71 posted on 11/21/2017 1:42:10 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: freepertoo

The photo is old and iconic. It is illustrative of Italian men and their attitude toward women decades ago. May as well go pull down some more confederate statues.


72 posted on 11/21/2017 1:44:22 PM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: freepertoo

The behavior portrayed by the men in this photo is not acceptable.

Gotta say that the photo itself is acceptable, a great conversation starter.


73 posted on 11/21/2017 2:00:58 PM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: freepertoo
>> The look on the girl’s face says it all <<

You may find this interesting. There is a lot behind the story. The photographer (Ruth Orkin) is well credentialed. Perhaps instead of taking the photo down it could have been a learning moment for the libtards.

My expression is not one of distress, that was just how I stalked around the city. I saw myself as Beatrice of Dante’s Divine Comedy. You had to walk with complete assurance and maintain a dignity at all times. The last thing you would do would be to look them in the eye and smile. I did not want to encourage them. This image has been interpreted in a sinister way but it was quite the opposite. They were having fun and so was I.

That’s me in the picture: Ninalee Craig photographed by Ruth Orkin in Florence in 1951, aged 23
74 posted on 11/21/2017 2:11:42 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If Italian men did NOT been pinched, pat, or catcall there would, by now, be no more Italians.


75 posted on 11/21/2017 2:49:22 PM PST by Bob Celeste
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To: Red Badger

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This was obviously a staged photo.

It means nothing negative; it is praise of womanhood in general.
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76 posted on 11/21/2017 2:54:23 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: American Constitutionalist
"Soon dating will be discouraged in favor of courtship. "

I have a knock down dead beautiful granddaughter, I sure hope you're right for my sons sake.

77 posted on 11/21/2017 3:04:58 PM PST by Bob Celeste
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To: editor-surveyor

I personally see it that way; but it was Italy, many decades ago.

A picture like it taken in Europe today might be far more sinister, given new “demographics”.


78 posted on 11/21/2017 3:55:23 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

That’s Nicolas Cage leaning in that photo. He doesn’t age. He is a vampire.


79 posted on 11/21/2017 4:00:44 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JohnyBoy

A declining population is not the end of the world. It’s cyclical. What’s insane is opening our borders.


80 posted on 11/21/2017 4:03:06 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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