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Las Vegas hotels subject guests to luggage screening after massacre
The Washington Times ^ | Oct 04, 2017 | Andrew Blake

Posted on 10/06/2017 9:15:47 AM PDT by EnglishOnly

Las Vegas hotels are rethinking security protocols after a guest brought dozens of guns into his room at Mandalay Bay

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hotels; lasvegas; luggage; massacre; screening; security
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To: EnglishOnly
One of my rules in life is that I'll never go through an invasive screening process for anything discretionary.

In my line of work and in my life, that means the only place where I'll do this sort of thing right now is: (1) for business-related airline travel (maybe once a year), and (2) business meetings in government buildings (maybe 3-4 times a year).

21 posted on 10/06/2017 9:52:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Terry Mross

No, he shot himself in the head.


22 posted on 10/06/2017 9:54:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Terry Mross

There is still much to be revealed for sure. I don’t know that I can go so far as to say the cops are lying on this yet.


23 posted on 10/06/2017 9:55:31 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: EnglishOnly

To be effective, it would need to be done nationwide at all high-rises, apartments included.

TSA everywhere. Oh yay.


24 posted on 10/06/2017 9:59:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: John Leland 1789
Is it actually illegal, or against hotel/motel rules, to be armed in the hotels/motels?

A Freeper from Clark county could help answer this. Nevada is an open carry state, but I think Clark County/Las Vegas is more discreet. I think that there is nothing illegal about having guns in your room if you are staying at the hotel (Nevada doesn't call it Castle Law, but their law reads similar to other states Castle Doctrines). To be armed and walking around the lobby or casino is a different matter and, again, someone local to Clark County could probably clarify what the laws are.

When training at ranges near Vegas, I have stayed at Vegas hotels and carried my cased guns to the room, usually trying to be as discrete about it as I can. If they make it where the hotels don't allow that, then I wont be patronizing those hotels anymore.

25 posted on 10/06/2017 10:05:44 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: John Leland 1789
No not in Nevada but the hotels are private property and as such the owners can set policy re: carrying. They have no force of law. All they can do is ask you to leave. Refusal to do so would be trespassing. You would be free to go and take your business else where which you should

This not like a NY or NJ airport where you would most likely get arrested if your tried to check your firearm through on a layover. The law would have to be substantially changed in Nevada.

The Hotels won't be able to sustain this and any searches are just knee jerk security theater. They will revert back after the economic impact takes hold.

26 posted on 10/06/2017 10:06:55 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: Polynikes
Anyone one looking for Nevada law and resultant actions should check out.
http://www.nevadashooters.com/
http://armsinfo.com/nevada/
Nevada has pretty much normalized and standardized laws across the state ie: the state sets policy rather than the individual county like Clark county which was like a little NY in the desert.
27 posted on 10/06/2017 10:12:59 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: Truth29

Good question.

After the left gets the big smackdown and pipes down about gun confiscation, they’ll turn their efforts on pushing for TSA everywhere.

For the children, of course.


28 posted on 10/06/2017 10:16:30 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Terry Mross

“The cops say they shot him. Somebody’s lying.”

Bingo. We have a winner. A big tell was why were the cartridges laying on top of his pool of blood.


29 posted on 10/06/2017 10:16:59 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: EnglishOnly

If implemented, will be about as effective as TSA (Theater of Security at Airports) — in other words not at all...


30 posted on 10/06/2017 10:26:51 AM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Polynikes

I was wondering about that... it was an intact cartridge wasn’t it? Not a spent shell. I don’t want to go look at it again.


31 posted on 10/06/2017 10:31:42 AM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: EnglishOnly

For a while, then they will stop. Doing it now is an emotional reaction to the murders. Not a good reason for doing something.


32 posted on 10/06/2017 10:37:28 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: EnglishOnly

Right after 9/11 the Bellagio was screening every Car going into their Parking Garage. They screened mine.

The Protocol will apply to Luggage. Very easy to wand a Bag, either at the entrance or by the Elevator Lobbies without causing too much trouble.

I think the Hotel Guests would be just fine with it.


33 posted on 10/06/2017 10:42:46 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly. John Rappaport has stated that in fact that is part of the agenda of this event. Not only does the event in Las Vegas enhance (for the liberal) the agenda of gun grabbing, it also enhances their argument for increasing the controlled nanny state.


34 posted on 10/06/2017 10:45:05 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: EnglishOnly

So every hotel over 10 stories in major population centers will have airport style security?

And the whole thing with Vegas is customer service, privacy, not customer searches, scans, x-rays, shakedowns etc. That’s not going to go well.


35 posted on 10/06/2017 10:54:59 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ponygirl

“it was an intact cartridge wasn’t it? Not a spent shell.”

Nope it was spent shell. Looked like .223 or 5.56. Apparently Paddock had weapons that fired themselves after their operator passed on. /s


36 posted on 10/06/2017 10:55:54 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: Polynikes; Terry Mross
Bingo. We have a winner. A big tell was why were the cartridges laying on top of his pool of blood.

Easily explained.

The casings were already on the floor. When the suspect shot himself he fell and blood from his head flowed around the casing on the floor.

37 posted on 10/06/2017 11:00:21 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kickass Conservative
"Very easy to wand a Bag,"

Very easy to wand it, but you will generate false positives like crazy. And what do you once the wands beeps? Go through people's bags by hands? That would never work, you'd need to then run it through an x-ray. It is a non-starter.

38 posted on 10/06/2017 11:05:31 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: EnglishOnly
I was chuckling at this thread on a basement dweller anon site...I was looking more for entertainment and saw this

About half way down on Sept 11th, someone posts:

look i feel bad for some of you on this website. so i'll let you in on a little secret. if you live in las vegas or henderson stay inside tomorrow. don't go anywhere where there are large groups of people. also if you see three blacks vans parked next to each other immediately leave the area. you're welcome
-john

Further down on the same date they conitnue:

it's called the "high incident project". they want to make the american public think that places with extremely high security aren't safe. they are trying to create more regulations. you will see laws proposed within the next few years to put up more metal detectors and other security devices. media and politicians will be saying places with lots of police need even more police. i can't guarantee anything will happen tomorrow but las vegas is on their minds. -john

if their plan is successful state of nevada will pass a law in the future making all casinos have mandatory metal detectors and backscatter machines. soon after a federal law will be passed to put these machines in universities, high schools, federal buildings, you name it. osi systems and chertoff are the main producers of these machines. sometime around 2020 chertoff and osi will merge into a single company. after they merge the owners will sell off all their stock and make billions in profit. mr chertoff has been in contact with sheldon adelson. mr adelson will become a huge sponsor of these machines and he will be the first to put them in his casinos when the law passes. this is my last message for now. don't expect me to return anytime soon -john

I don't put stock in this type of stuff and nothing happened on Sept 12 that I know of, but putting it here because it fits with the topic.

39 posted on 10/06/2017 11:11:27 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Proud yet grieving father of my precious child Jon Jon...)
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To: MrShoop

You may have a point.

Wanding probably works better on a Person than an object.

So much for my dream of a Career as a TSA Agent.

What do you suggest? My Carry bag was searched by the TSA on two occasions because I had a small container of Talcum Powder in with my toiletries.

I’m sure it had nothing to do with the fact that my Carry On is a small Duffel Bag emblazoned with an NRA Logo. LOL


40 posted on 10/06/2017 11:12:45 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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