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Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car...
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | August 31, 2017 | Pamela Manson

Posted on 09/01/2017 7:34:22 AM PDT by BobNative

A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.

Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.

Wubbels says blood cannot be taken from an unconscious patient unless the patient is under arrest, unless there is a warrant allowing the draw or unless the patient consents. The detective acknowledges in the footage that none of those requirements is in place, but he insists that he has the authority to obtain the draw, according to the footage.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; assault; donutwatch; leo; nurse; police; psychocop; slc; utah
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1 posted on 09/01/2017 7:34:22 AM PDT by BobNative
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To: BobNative

If he cannot state the source for his ‘authority’ he’s full of crap...................


2 posted on 09/01/2017 7:36:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger

One yuuuuge lawsuit, comin’ up!


3 posted on 09/01/2017 7:39:22 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: BobNative

That officer acted like a thug. No reason to escalate the situation like that.


4 posted on 09/01/2017 7:39:57 AM PDT by boycott
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To: BobNative

If you watch the whole 18 minutes....she’s telling him the precise way that she can do this (legally). If she went his way...she’d draw the blood illegally, and give prosecution case an ample chance to be thrown out by the judge. The cop, and his boss...are too stupid to grasp that.

It just adds more fuel to the fire that we have a large number of cops who are unable to perform their job in a proficient manner. Even when they let this guy go....he’ll be a TSA agent within a week or two.


5 posted on 09/01/2017 7:41:01 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: boycott

Yeah, if you read the entire article, the officer sounds like he needs to be relieved of his badge, before he really does some damage.


6 posted on 09/01/2017 7:41:01 AM PDT by wbill
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To: BobNative

The story, AS PRESENTED, shows a arrogant and out-of-control cop.

The police are their own worst enemies. When they get out of control and flout the law, they lend credence to evil liars like the Black Liars Movement and the pAntifags.


7 posted on 09/01/2017 7:42:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: BobNative

Should “hospital policy” trump the needs of law enforcement? If the cop is off-base and if he is acquiring a blood sample inappropriately, then it cannot be used in a court of law. It seems to me that the timing was vital and there was always time later to “throw away” the result if the evidence ended up being inadmissible.

Unless the blood draw endangered the patient, I would think the cop might have been making a valid request.


8 posted on 09/01/2017 7:43:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: Tucker39

From the article:

Porter, however, said “implied consent” has not been the law in Utah since 2007, and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2016 that the Constitution permits warrantless breath tests in drunken-driving arrests, but not warrantless blood tests. She stressed that the patient was always considered the victim in the case and never was suspected of wrongdoing.”

Officer, his Lt. and PD are in Big Do-Do!..................


9 posted on 09/01/2017 7:45:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: ClearCase_guy
As explained, drawing blood from an unconscious patient requires an arrest, a warrant or consent. Lacking any of those three things, the public servant can pound sand.
10 posted on 09/01/2017 7:46:55 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: BobNative

That’s one of the worst videos I’ve ever seen. That cop should go to prison.


11 posted on 09/01/2017 7:47:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BobNative

Just to note, the unconscious person the officer was trying to obtain a sample from was a victim in a crash. He was hit head-on by a perp the police were chasing. Explains why there was neither a warrant, nor an arrest for the unconscious victim.


12 posted on 09/01/2017 7:47:35 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: BobNative

Get a lawyer and let him/her do what is necessary. Most lawyers get paid from your settlement money.


13 posted on 09/01/2017 7:47:56 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Democrats are suffering Soros psychosis. He hates America.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
See post 5....Looks like the nurse was explaining how to do it legally in a manner that *wouldn't* get it tossed out of court, and the cop wasn't having it.

Article was written to put the cop in the worst light possible. Full context shows that he was, indeed, in the wrong, IMO.

14 posted on 09/01/2017 7:49:31 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Tucker39

Nope. The courts will side with the officer because he was “acting in good faith”. Yep.


15 posted on 09/01/2017 7:50:29 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Liberals Do Not Want Children To Be Children)
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To: pepsionice

Good thing he didn’t shoot her.


16 posted on 09/01/2017 7:51:13 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Liberals Do Not Want Children To Be Children)
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To: pepsionice
If she went his way...she’d draw the blood illegally, and give prosecution case an ample chance to be thrown out by the judge.

There's no case against the unconscious patient. He is a victim in this. The police in Utah were chasing a perp and the perp hit the now-unconscious patient head-on in a crash during the chase.

There's absolutely no reason to draw blood from this person, no reason for him to be under arrest, and no reason for a warrant to be issued for a blood draw.

17 posted on 09/01/2017 7:51:34 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: wbill

Yes. I think I was too quick. I figured the journalist was just trying to make the cop look bad, but it appears that the Nurse had it right and the cop was being thuggish. I wish I could remove my comment above.


18 posted on 09/01/2017 7:51:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Should “hospital policy” trump the needs of law enforcement? "

Don't care - the 4th amendment trumps the 'needs' of law enforcement.

19 posted on 09/01/2017 7:52:19 AM PDT by lacrew
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“Should “hospital policy” trump the needs of law enforcement?”

Absolutely, they are predicated on laws designed to protect their patients. Once again, we see the arrogance displayed by this LEO that drives the absolute need for body cameras on all cops. I suspect that it is more than hospital policy, and more likely state law regarding the rights of the accused. The fact that this cop didn’t want to follow the law is ample evidence that he needs to be dismissed, and that he never be allowed to be a cop again, ever. And he should be prosecuted for assaulting the nurse.


20 posted on 09/01/2017 7:53:31 AM PDT by vette6387
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