Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trump’s Executive Order on Religious Liberty Is Worse Than Useless
National Review ^ | May 4, 2017 | David French

Posted on 05/04/2017 1:43:21 PM PDT by Coronal

Fresh on the heels of a budget deal that fully funds Planned Parenthood, Donald Trump has signed a religious-liberty executive order that — if reports are correct — is constitutionally dubious, dangerously misleading, and ultimately harmful to the very cause that it purports to protect. In fact, he should tear it up, not start over, and do the actual real statutory and regulatory work that truly protects religious liberty.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nationalreview; nevertrumpearworm; religiouslibertyeo; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-75 next last
To: Coronal

Well...
Laura Ingraham today said it wasn’t much good either...evidently foes not help Little Sisters of the Poor and other similar organizations ....don’t know details


21 posted on 05/04/2017 2:00:05 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: madprof98

I was not able to locate all the text of the order but this sounds okay to me:

First, it instructs the Internal Revenue Service to “not take any adverse action against any individual, house of worship, or other religious organization” that endorse or oppose candidates from the pulpit, which is currently outlawed by a provision typically referred to as the Johnson Amendment. “We are giving churches their voices back,” Trump said during a ceremony in the Rose Garden. Second, it instructs the Departments of Treasury, Labor, and Health and Human Services to consider amending regulations in the Affordable Care Act that require most employers to cover contraception in employee insurance plans. A number of religious non-profit organizations have been litigating their objections to this requirement.


22 posted on 05/04/2017 2:00:07 PM PDT by mikelets456
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

The vagueness of it makes it insultingly useless...

Never forget the time a gal told me that. Most embarrassing night of my life :)


23 posted on 05/04/2017 2:00:09 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: madprof98
House Passes Bill to Defund Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
24 posted on 05/04/2017 2:01:52 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: mikelets456
The first provision is basically aimed at encouraging white evangelical churches to follow the lead of black churches in pushing politics from the pulpit--the point being that the politics would be different.

The second provision is a sop to the Little Sisters of the Poor (there for the photo op) and to Hobby Lobby fans, but in reality, both situations have been satisfactorily resolved by federal courts. Meanwhile, Christian business people are losing their livelihood for standing up to the gay-everything crowd, and this order does nothing NADA to protect their rights. Why not? Because Jared and Ivanka are gay-marriage fans.

25 posted on 05/04/2017 2:04:25 PM PDT by madprof98
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

NeverTrump Review hates it so it must be good.


26 posted on 05/04/2017 2:05:13 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Coronal
This is David French who almost ran for president against Trump.

This is Bill Kristol and the never Trumpers candidate who said he was going to run for president but did not.

27 posted on 05/04/2017 2:06:50 PM PDT by detective
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coronal

I believe NOTHING from this Never Trumper


28 posted on 05/04/2017 2:09:36 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goodnesswins
Laura Ingraham today said it wasn’t much good either...evidently foes not help Little Sisters of the Poor and other similar organizations ....don’t know details

The order is a nice sentiment, nothing more. Almost worse than none at all, because it evokes well-founded taunts from the left, who knows how useless such language is.

29 posted on 05/04/2017 2:09:47 PM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Coronal

An article from David French, a never-Trumper who briefly flirted with an independent bid against Trump last year? Moving on.


30 posted on 05/04/2017 2:09:54 PM PDT by No Dems 2016
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

It is the Johnson Amendment which instigated all of the assaults on religion. Without that, religious institutions could defend themselves in the political arena. Right now, they can’t.

This Executive Order is a very good way to enter religious liberty and the Johnson Amendment back into the political and social narrative. It’s a first step and it has people talking about it. . .i.e., it worked.


31 posted on 05/04/2017 2:11:37 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Nifster

He summarized it pretty accurately.


32 posted on 05/04/2017 2:19:35 PM PDT by Coronal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: gspurlock

How can you not see this as good for GOP. 40 percent of the people who could vote are evangelicals. Roman Catholics who go to church and Orthodox Jews fall into the conservative voting block. Letting these people discuss political positions and candidates is a big setback for the Dems who have raised money in Black Churches for decades without fear of the tax man.

The size of the voting block the GOP will now have energized is staggering.

This is a very big deal


33 posted on 05/04/2017 2:22:40 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: bray

LOL


34 posted on 05/04/2017 2:26:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Coronal; xzins

This order simply restores the right of free speech and assembly to churches. Even though it is a repeal of a law by fiat, the law it repealed is in fact a vile violation of the Constitution. This order simply restores the Liberty that LBJ took away. In that sense it is entirely consistent with the President’s sworn obligation to defend the Constitution and enforce the law -— the Constitution being the Supreme Law.


35 posted on 05/04/2017 2:29:22 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coronal

so how does this enhanced focus on freedom of religion square up with islamist trying to establish shari law in the USA?


36 posted on 05/04/2017 2:29:54 PM PDT by thinden
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coronal

And why do I care what David French, aka Egg McMuffin supporter, thinks?


37 posted on 05/04/2017 2:34:44 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

“National Review > Worse than useless!”

Yes, we have an adequate supply of toilet tissue available.


38 posted on 05/04/2017 2:35:44 PM PDT by vette6387
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Zenjitsuman

“This is a very big deal”

Yes it is, and for the very reasons you state in your post.


39 posted on 05/04/2017 2:38:35 PM PDT by vette6387
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Coronal

From the douchenozzle who ran against Trump for a week.


40 posted on 05/04/2017 2:40:31 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-75 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson