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1 posted on 01/12/2017 5:24:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Absolute hit piece. Never recall a special investigation being done talking to the people who lost their doctors and their plans.


2 posted on 01/12/2017 5:26:04 AM PST by SoFloFreeper (Isaiah 25:8)
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My Father lost his Health Coverage at his Work when he retired because of Ubamacare, what about Him Huh?

Oh that is right, the left doesn't care. He doesn't vote the way they want him too, so "Can't Make an Omelet with breaking some eggs" thing.

I shouldn't be surprised, these people are the heirs of those who explained away The Ukrainian Starvation, what is loss of good Health Coverage of Millions of Americans because of their schemes to them?

3 posted on 01/12/2017 5:28:16 AM PST by KC_Lion ("I'm a believer that you don't need a title, and you don't need an office to make a difference"~S.P.)
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And these people did what for 20 years before Obamacare. It’s called Medicaid.


4 posted on 01/12/2017 5:28:43 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Whether or not those wards of the state recognize that they should feel emasculated by being dependent on welfare, they should be grateful for being freed from a condition of dependency.


5 posted on 01/12/2017 5:30:20 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Obamacare — its “too big to fail”!!!

I really like Trump yesterday explaining that it’s such a disaster that he could just wait it out and have it totally implode in 2017. People would be losing huge money. People would be begging him to repeal it. But he’s not going to just watch it hurt people. Trump is going to step up and put something better in place. He’s not going to wait.


8 posted on 01/12/2017 5:31:35 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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A lot of the people who have Obamacare are responsible citizens who are buying insurance for themselves without any subsidy.


9 posted on 01/12/2017 5:31:42 AM PST by babble-on
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Where is the story about my widowed friend Theresa, who saw her deductible go to $11,000, her monthly premium go to $1100, and now can’t afford health insurance for her and her 15 year old son?

Where is the story about my friend Debbie, a home care nurse who simply can’t afford Obamacare, so she just goes without and pays the fine?


10 posted on 01/12/2017 5:32:38 AM PST by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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Obamacare-damaged people outnumber Obamacare-dependent people at least 10-1, so...oh, what? They are middle class whites? OK...then never mind. :)


12 posted on 01/12/2017 5:32:59 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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I still don’t understand the money-flow of Obamacare.

People who have been paying for their insurance got screwed.

People who got “price support” used to use Medicaid or go to the emergency room. How is this different, except that the price support now comes from increased premiums on the struggling middle class rather than from state funds?


13 posted on 01/12/2017 5:33:02 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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ObamaCare did one thing - it made medical care more expensive and actually decreased access for millions more than it “helped”. (I guess that’s really two things....).


14 posted on 01/12/2017 5:36:02 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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South Florida residents who are dependent on the law are considering, what they are calling, the potential devastating effects of repealing the law.

You mean a return to those devastating dark ages before Obamacare, way, way back in 2011? Those days when the sick wandered the streets like zombies and bodies piled up in the gutters and doctors still used leeches and bloodletting because Obamacare hadn't yet lifted us into the light? /s

16 posted on 01/12/2017 5:45:09 AM PST by apillar
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Even if they repeal Obamacare, their insurance plans will still be in effect through the end of the year as long as they continue to pay the premiums. DJT and congress have all year to “replace” it. They can repeal it anytime.


21 posted on 01/12/2017 5:53:13 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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The ugly fact of ObamaCare is that its proponents harped months and years on end about the 25 million uninsured, blah, blah, blah. Never once did they account for the fact that Medicaid and County Government and Health Services footed a huge portion of their bills via the emergency room.

Now, they up the ante with another 5 million bringing the total to 30 million who [ooga booga] will be left without that net (if you willfully neglect Medicaid and welfare state contributions). Liars all.

The dirty little ditty about ObamaCare is that these ‘subsidies’ are often relegated to Medicaid status anyway. Couple this subterfuge with the fact that the rest of the country is being penalized for allowing that obfuscation which results in much higher costs for all and a pantload of new invasive regulations and oversight.

The truth is that it would be far cheaper just to give these so-called 30 million some basic coverage and leave the rest of us alone and be done with this hateful scam.


22 posted on 01/12/2017 5:55:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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Sounds like these are all MEDICAID patients who don’t pay a PENNY.


23 posted on 01/12/2017 5:56:09 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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The Marxists once again yelling fire in a crowded theater.


34 posted on 01/12/2017 6:19:24 AM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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Too many people I know spend their (hard earned?) money on frivolous things or stupidly at convince type places instead of using their money wisely, and budgeting a portion to have been able to pay for health insurance. (Granted some people have true need for help with health care due to truly unforeseen or not self made disease/medical situation)

I have maintained my own health insurance for at least 15 years and in the last 7 years seen premiums jump to more than triple my for my original coverage, copays double, deductible I had to raise it from 1,500 to 10,000 just to maintain some coverage and not quit mine to take a ride on obamacare.

Many of today’s citizens act first and think later, when it’s too late and they realize they are in need(again) or a worsening situation.

Been there, so I sympathize, but one has to be willing to pick up the reigns and steer a new direction not same path that continues to lead to lack.


36 posted on 01/12/2017 6:21:46 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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No matter what happens, somebody will benefit and somebody will be hurt. We can’t focus in on one or the other without skewing reality. We need to look at the overall picture.

A similar problem is electric cars. On the face of it they seem like a good idea. But when you consider the ecological damage done to mine the materials and the long term disposal, meaning the entire lifecycle, they are overwhelmingly a bad decision.

Any socialization of anything will favor one group at the expense of others. The marketplace approach is the only one that guarantees a fair price to all. The problem comes in when you say, well what if somebody can’t pay that price?


43 posted on 01/12/2017 7:06:19 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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Two thousand patients at one Wynwood clinic have Obamacare,

It would be interesting to hear from some of these patients on just what kind of "healthcare" they're receiving. Is it timely? Is it effective? Is it affordable? What do they pay, if anything at all?

44 posted on 01/12/2017 7:25:59 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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Over 90% of the 'health care' money a person spends in their lifetime is spent in the last 6 months of their lives.

Providing health care for poor people under the age of 65 should be cheap and effective and it would be if we STOPPED pretending we're not paying now.

We are paying now.

Poor people get care at Emergency Rooms - the most expensive way possible to get care.

Use what's already comfortable for the poor but make it affordable. Siding scale, incentives not to overuse (easy to set up) and a computerized way of diagnosis that could make this system the standard of care world wide.

49 posted on 01/12/2017 9:04:53 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Over 90% of the 'health care' money a person spends in their lifetime is spent in the last 6 months of their lives.

Providing health care for poor people under the age of 65 should be cheap and effective and it would be if we STOPPED pretending we're not paying now.

We are paying now.

Poor people get care at Emergency Rooms - the most expensive way possible to get care.

Use what's already comfortable for the poor but make it affordable. Siding scale, incentives not to overuse (easy to set up) and a computerized way of diagnosis that could make this system the standard of care world wide.

Oh, and not 'use' emergency rooms - but that concept... maybe right next door to already used Emergency rooms.

50 posted on 01/12/2017 9:06:31 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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