Posted on 11/19/2016 11:20:11 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Rumors are that Donald Trump might pick John Bolton for Secretary of State. Heaven forbid.
One of the things I occasionally liked about the President-elect was his opposition to the Iraq war and regime change. He not only grasped the mistake of that war early, but also seemed to fully understand how it disrupted the balance of power in the Middle East and even emboldened Iran.
We liberated Iraq, but today their best friend is Iran, their second greatest ally is Russia, and their third strongest alliance is with Syria. Trump really seems to get the lesson. Hillary Clinton never did.
Most importantly right now, John Bolton never learned and never will.
Bolton is a longtime member of the failed Washington elite that Trump vowed to oppose, hell-bent on repeating virtually every foreign policy mistake the U.S. has made in the last 15 years — particularly those Trump promised to avoid as president.
John Bolton more often stood with Hillary Clinton and against what Donald Trump has advised.
None of this is secret. It’s all out there. Perhaps the incoming administration should take a closer look.
Bolton was one of the loudest advocates of overthrowing Saddam Hussein and still stupefyingly insists it was the right call 13 years later. “I still think the decision to overthrow Saddam was correct,” Bolton said just last year.
Trump, rightly, believes that decision was a colossal mistake that destabilized the region. “Iraq used to be no terrorists,” Trump said in 2015. “(N)ow it’s the Harvard of terrorism.”
“If you look at Iraq from years ago, I’m not saying he was a nice guy, he was a horrible guy,” Trump said of Saddam Hussein, “but it was a lot better than it is right now.”
Trump has said U.S. intervention in Iraq in 2003 “helped to throw the region into chaos and gave ISIS the space it needs to grow and prosper.” In contrast, Bolton has said explicitly that he wants to repeat Iraq-style regime change in Syrian and Iran.
You can’t learn from mistakes if you don’t see mistakes.
Trump has blamed George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for helping to create ISIS — but should add John Bolton to that list, who essentially agreed with all three on our regime change debacles.
In 2011, Bolton bashed Obama “for his refusal to directly target Gaddafi” and declared, “there is a strategic interest in toppling Gaddafi… But Obama missed it.” In fact, Obama actually took Bolton’s advice and bombed the Libyan dictator into the next world. Secretary of State Clinton bragged, “We came, we saw, he died.”
When Trump was asked last year if Libya and the region would be more stable today with Gaddafi in power, he replied “100 percent.” Mr. Trump is 100 percent right.
No man is more out of touch with the situation in the Middle East or more dangerous to our national security than Bolton.
All nuance is lost on the man. The fact that Russia has had a base in Syria for 50 years doesn’t deter Bolton from calling for all out, no holds barred war in Syria. Bolton criticized the current administration for offering only a tepid war. For Bolton, only a hot-blooded war to create democracy across the globe is demanded.
Woodrow Wilson would be proud, but the parents of our soldiers should be mortified. War should be the last resort, never the first. War should be understood to be a hell no one wishes for. Dwight Eisenhower understood this when he wrote, “I hate war like only a soldier can, the stupidity, the banality, the futility.”
Bolton would not understand this because, like many of his generation, he used every privilege to avoid serving himself. Bolton said, with the threat of the Vietnam draft over his head, that “he had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy.” But he’s seems to be okay with your son or daughter dying wherever his neoconservative impulse leads us: “Even before the Iraq War, John Bolton was a leading brain behind the neoconservatives’ war-and-conquest agenda,” notes The American Conservative’s Jon Utley.
At a time when Americans thirst for change and new thinking, Bolton is an old hand at failed foreign policy.
The man is a menace.
Our Constitution and our founding fathers were explicit war was not to be fought without the permission of Congress. No matter which party occupies the White House, I will not shrink from my constitutional duty to oppose any advocate for war.
The true statesmen realizes, with reluctance, that war is sometimes necessary but as a country, we should resist any would-be leader who wants to bomb now and think later.
President-elect Donald Trump campaigned on changing our disastrous foreign policy. To appoint John Bolton would be a major first step toward breaking that promise.
Rand Paul is the junior senator from Kentucky.
They are not all in the Middle East. Perhaps it is time to send them back. They do not belong here or in Europe. Other nations can make their own decisions.
Containment can have temporary uses but it is not a long term strategy. These lunatics have been running wild long enough and then some. The Middle East is the problem. If they give the Chinese grief, the Chinese will terminate them in China. Likewise India, our ally, just itching to get it on with Pakistan which also should not have nukes and sheltered Osama bin Laden, etc.
The population decline in the West is curable by a determined policy to increase birthrates and a determination to return from materialism run amok to having large families, banning abortion, discouraging birth control methods, gearing tax policy to reward large families, etc.
If current examples are not enough to justify crushing the Islamofascists, then see the movie Khartoum and what the Mahdi and his lunatics did to a very humane British General China Gordon in the 19th century.
As to what is doable, you apparently would be quite surprised as to what even one Ohio Class submarine can do, much less a fleet of them.
If it is true that they believed that, their mental health was compromised but even so, John Foster Dulles was a lot more successful defending this country than Traitor John Kerry.
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I totally agree. Obozo was all about sabotaging this nation, its allies and its interests. The Arab Spring was a complete disgrace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Malaysia
Your plan is not viable. To destroy Muslims with missiles from submarines we’d need a huge fleet of them across most of the planet (see number of Muslims in Malaysia above)
Plus we’d have to be willing to accept astronomical collateral damage of non muslims being wiped out. Who (besides yourself) would be willing to carry out death on such a scale?
To accomplish your ‘extinct’ plan it would have to a simultaneous attack all over the planet because if it was piecemeal, other countries would take out our subs to prevent the task being completed. We don’t have the naval assets to accomplish such a task.
Other nations would not agree with YOUR PLAN and they have nukes. Once they got wind of YOUR PLAN they would use them to stop the mass extermination you propose. I doubt even our Western allies, many of which have nukes would go along with such a plan. So we’d have one go at it ... alone, worldwide, simultaneously ... and as I said, we don’t have the military assets to pull off such a mass extermination.
Your plan is not logical, practicable or feasible ... even if it were moral, which it is not. It’s pure emotional fantasizing.
Your new stance of “make a start at it” would not accomplish making Muslims “extinct” which was your original proposal. We’d never be able to finish YOUR PLAN to make Muslims extinct after the first go round. The rest of the planet would become allies to stop us.
How would you get even our own military on board with such a ludicrous and impossible proposal? Even if they were nutty enough to try such a thing, they are not suicidal.
“supported a foreign policy in the early 2000s that involved the U.S. spending hundreds of billions of dollars and pissing away thousands of American lives”
Your numbers are really light. Last I heard the expected cost was a few years ago, Before the resurgence, ISIS and all that happened in Syria & Libya. It was $5T for Iraq and $3T for Afghanistan. This counts debt interest and the long term care for our injured soldiers. Worth it? Hell NO!!!!
The people who came up with the false justifications for the Iraq war should be in prison. Or sentenced to care for disabled vets for the rest of their lives.
Next time we are attacked, don't be so damn stupid as to support military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq while the world's biggest sponsors of radical Islamic terrorism sit back and relax in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
The rest of your rants on this thread read like they came from a PNAC playbook, authored by Mos Eisley characters like Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Kristol and John Bolton ... and stored on Hillary Clinton's private server in New York. These people have been completely discredited over the last 25 years. Did you ever ask yourself why so many of these "neo-cons" were openly supporting Hillary Clinton in this election?
If my numbers are light it’s because I was basing them on the costs as of the mid-2000s when I started taking a good hard look at this bullsh!t.
Bolton advocates wuppin ass because he wants U.S. TO FIGHT WITHOUT OUR HANDS TIED BEHIND OUR BACKS.
when we fight like WW2 we win like WW2.
Whatever happen to Rudi? Newt would be good too. Foggy botton needs a thorough house cleaning.
We need not slaughter every last Muslim, just the ones who defy the West, plan on a world-wide caliphate, force the conversion of all "non-believers" to the fantasies of the 8th Century camel jockey and child molester and have now taken to CRUCIFYING Christian CHILDREN or does that not bother you.
As my mother brought me up to believe (and a lot of other people's moms did likewise), it does not matter if the whole world goes nuts, I will not be joining the nutcases (in this case the spineless who simply will NOT kill their enemies pre-emptively as necessary). The mullahs in Iran whom Comrade Imam Obozo has now allowed to have nukes have constantly declared their intention to incinerate Israel and "The Great Satan" (that would be the USA. What is YOUR plan to stop it? Diployak until the bombs fall on the USA? Oh, they were sooooooo noble that they allowed themselves to be annihilated rather than do ANYTHING EFFECTIVE to stop the Islamolooneytunes!
It appears that Donald Trump is seriously considering retired Marine Corps General James "Mad Dog" Mattis as Secretary of Defense. He does not sit around singing Kumbaya either. Personnel is policy.
Why do we give a crap about the opinion of other nations when catering to their stupidity gets us (and many of them) incinerated?
Let's break down your fantasy of nuclear armed nations attacking us. This is the silly mindset of Robert (truly) Strange MacNamara's MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) that supposedly protected us from the big bad soviet bear during the rule of such quisling POTUSes as Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson (more of a man's man but still a quisling) until Ronaldus Maximus took office and broke the impasse as Brezhnev, Andropov (a truly dangerous man), and Chernenko bit the dust and were replaced by Gorbachev. Reagan explained High Frontier which the soviets could not remotely afford to match or overcome and Gorby gave up the ghost for the ussr. The wall came tumbling down. Eastern Europe and much of central Europe was free. Even Russia had a chance for freedom. Of course, that is at odds with the shameless propaganda that infests the lamestream media. Truth has a habit of doing that.
We have 14 Ohio Class submarines each equipped with 24 Trident II SLBMs each of which has 8-14 nuclear warheads. 14 X 24 X (even 8) makes for 2,688 warheads which ought to be enough to discourage militant Islam permanently. YOU don't have to worry about this. The Islamofascists are the ones who have to worry.
Will the UK stand up for the Islamopigs who are killing Brits within their own borders? Will the French (ditto)? Will the Israelis nuke us to stand up for Iran? So much for allies turning on us. That leaves Russia, Red China, Pakistan and the NORKs. Kim Jong Porkfat may THINK he can harm us but we can finish the job that Truman kept MacArthur from finishing long, long ago and without using many missiles.
The Red Chinese may have it in their hearts to imagine taking us on but where is the sense in that? Their military is engaged as much in commerce as in preparation for war. Playing bumper cars in the sky with an occasional American military plane is one thing and actual war against the US is quite another.
For the same reason that the Chicoms are sooooooo reluctant to try to seize Taiwan, they would not dream of engaging the USA in nuclear war. AND, if not for the treason of Slick Willie for $$$$$$, they would not have the technology to engage Israel in such a war. Also, they are conquering the West by currency manipulation and by treasonweasel "trade" agreements and now by DEMANDING that Trump bow down and adore "Climate Change" Mythology to keep the US from competing with the Chinese commerce. If necessary, we can arm Japan with nukes and, given the history between China and Japan, that will certainly keep the Chicoms busy.
Now we are down to Russia and Pakistan. First, Pakistan. Whenever a reasonable leader arises there (Benazir Bhutto?) the Paki Islamofascists assassinate them. OK, like short people, Pakistan, which also knowingly harbored Osama bin 9/11 for years, and provided nuclear weapons technology to the Iranian mullahs, has no reason to live. In life, the late Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson did a magnificent job of providing for the defense of the United States and Western Civilization. He also memorably said: "I may be a socialist but that does not mean that I must be a damned fool." Let the Ohio Class submarine Henry Jackson do the honors on Pakistan.
Under the czars, Russia was an ally of the 19th century USA. Under the soviets, except for the shameful WWII alliance with Stalin, Russia was our traditional enemy. Putin in the soviet era was boss of the KGB in East Germany, a truly dismal place. Outward appearances suggest that he and Russia have changed.
Despite the airy fairy "realist" views and policies of Nixon/Ford and Poppy Bush, the Russians never gave up their nukes as they were supposed to do. Diployak NEVER solves anything but the NEED of diployakkers for swell hotel accommodations, great booze, fine wine (John Kerry: Another five cases of Chateau Lafitte Rothschild '29! Ain't diplotreason a swell way of life?), and sumptious diplobanquets where just EVERYONE agrees that all is OK with the Establishment's world and the peasants, while still revolting, are still suppressed!!!
I'd like to be privy to our best intelligence as to what today's Putin is REALLY all about. Is he the casually dressed dad bringing his kids to light candles at Mass in Orthodox cathedrals? Is he primarily concerned with tending the billions he has extracted to his own bank accounts from Russia's economy and bullying capitalists into coughing up their property. Would he like to join us in exterminating George Soros who wrecked the Russian economy before going after ours. I am all in favor of old KGB hands joining with Americans in putting a painful end to Soros and his empire. We could divide the assets with Putin and have a whole new relationship.
Putin wants us to join him in propping up Bashar Assad in Syria. That is a definite NO now and forever but so is supporting Assad's ISIS opponents. We can leave Syria to Putin. It is a better idea than any future invasions by Putin of Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Beloruss, etc., or especially Poland, Hungary, The Czech Republic. Slovakia, Slovenia, and other former soviet colonies.
I have a deal for Putin. He can have Syria if he refrains from invading or otherwise attempting to grab those other countries AND he stops arming Islamofascists. Putin is not Stalin. The Islamofascists of Iran ARE Hitler. A combination of Russian and US power would also mean that Putin need have no more worries about Chechnya (Boston Marathon bombing here and seizing a Russian school full of children and bombing a Moscow opera house). He can do with Chechnya as he sees fit and we can help him.
If a viable alliance can be worked with Putin, the half-assed Marxists, atheists, and limp spaghetti spines now running many Western European subdivisions of the anti-American European Union may get the message that we are NOT there for them next time so they better clean up their act, fund their own weapons, grow a pair, and behave like adults OR, well, they have had their chance.
If Italians vote down their idiot PMs constitutional changes to eliminate their Senate's power to slow down leftist disgraces in a hurry, and Netherlands elects Wilders, and Austria elects Hofer and France elects Marine LePen, and each of those countries then has a Brexit of its own, we will have REAL alliances again. Maybe Nigel Farage and UKIP can vanquish Tories and Labor and the politically hermaphrodie LibDems. We might jointly celebrate by invading Belgium and reducing Brussels to ashes. Then pick up each and every Islamo in Europe, dump them on Angela Merkel (if she survives her next election and is not defeated by Alternativ Fur Deutschland), turning Germany into a temporary detention facility and then offering the Islamos the choice: All the way back to the Middle East or half the way back on a leaky boat? It is up to them.
Europe is saved and is no longer a gateway for terrorists to pass through on their way to the US. "Oh no! Muhammed el Kaboomski is not a Syrian. He is a German citizen! You just have to welcome him and ALL his undocumented Demonrat relatives to Centralia, Kansas. Otherwise the Chermans will be most upset with us and throw their baby rattles at us or spit up their crushed peas all over us!" (Unless, of course, Merkel is politically exterminated).
As to any uppity pipsqueak nation "taking out our submarines," that is why God commissioned the Virginia Class Fast Attack Submarines in large numbers. Their navies would be on the bottom and large numbers of land-based and SL ballistic missiles will remain to clean up unexpected messes. Four of the Ohio Class submarines have been converted to conventional weaponry in the form of 254 Cruise Missiles each. Think Mecca, Medina, the Dome of the Rock, Teheran, every royal residence in two-faced Wahabi Saudi Arabia, every mullah ridden mosque. The survivors (now a Stone Age people) can spend their lives and energy trying to learn what a wheel is.
Again, other than "containment" which accomplishes exactly NOTHING but to turn Iran into the new soviets and enduring ANOTHER endless standoff (as they develop usable nukes), what is YOUR plan to put an end to the Iranian mullahs and their nuclear weapons program and their expressed (daily) intention of nuking Israel and the United States???? "Practical" details, please and try not to drag the plan out to 2555 when we can and ought to ACT NOW!
Precisely!
In her college years, Hillary was also on autosurrender just like the "paleos." She ran an "alternative" graduation ceremony rather than listen to that notorious warmonger Senator Ed Brooke as commencement speaker. He was insufficiently in favor of Ho Chi Minh, you see. Ho Chi Minh has to be among your heroes, too, right? It is an everlasting shame upon the USA that Ho died in bed with his boots off. He should have died in the streets of Hanoi with his head off.
As a paleo and an admirer of Neville Chamberlain, you would not know "discredited" if it jumped up and bit you. No one will EVER forget Neville Chamberlain's weak-kneed sissified performance on the tarmac at Heathrow about "Peace in Our Time' and about how Herr Hitler's territorial ambitions were at an end. What reason would Hitler have to lie? Hmmmmm?
I don't remember any of those four other than perhaps Wolfowitz (and shame on him!) endorsing Her Satanic Majesty. They simply were not convinced that Trump was committed to destroying our enemies. I certainly would be amazed if Bolton supported Hillary as you are trying to suggest. Richard Perle, IIRC, is pure genius. Bill Kristol has exceeded his shelf life as amply demonstrated this year even if he did not endorse her. John Bolton at State and Mattis at the Pentagon and the world will be right in short order.
In any event, if Trump appoints retired Marine Corps General James "Mad Dog" Mattis as Secretary of Defense, this exchange and Islamofortunes will be at a permanent end. Mattis is no politician and he is a former commanding officer of the First Division. He will KNOW what to do.
How do missiles launched from submarines do that?
Also, you said we could make Muslims EXTINCT. Now you are saying something very different.
You've been reduced to touting the credentials and accomplishments of people who orchestrated an unmitigated disaster in the Middle East by any measure -- financial, diplomatic, and in lost and wrecked human lives. Richard Perle is "pure genius?" What the 'eff are you talking about? He has spent the last decade first working to diminish his role in the invasion of Iraq, then finally admit that the whole thing was a disaster.
Gen. Mattis probably isn't going to be the Secretary of Defense anytime soon. As a former military officer he would have to wait at least seven years after his retirement before serving in that role -- which means he isn't eligible until 2020 unless Congress changes that law.
They simply were not convinced that Trump was committed to destroying our enemies.
Bullsh!t. Trump called them out when he laid waste to Jeb Bush in one of those debates during the GOP primaries ... when he pointed out repeatedly that the U.S. doesn't even know who our friends and enemies are over there -- and has been providing financial and military support to them for years.
Trump won this election because he exposed the absurdity of pissing away trillions of dollars and thousands of lives in stupid military campaigns all over the globe, while doing nothing to stop the invasion across our own southern border.
Trump called every other candidate out often in contradictory terms. My original candidate was Walker. He was gone in very short order. My next candidate was Cruz and by the end of the contest I was delighted he had lost and that Trump had won.
IF YOU GET YOUR PACIFIST WAY: When the Iranian mushroom rises over NYC, you will need a lot more than regrets in New Jersey to cope with the blast and the radiation. Good luck.
Trump won your vote unintentionally because you deluded yourself into imagining that Trump is a paleopeacecreep. Doesn't look like a Kumbaya crooner or an ostrich to me. BTW, I notice your all too obvious reluctance to defend your heroes: Neville Chamberlain, Charles Lindberg, Colonel MacCormack, Comrade George McGovern, Jane Fonda, et al.
Personally, I suspect Trump interviewed Mattis to see who Mattis would recommend for the Defense Secretary position. Apparently that approach to assembling a management team isn't even considered in a fetid swamp like Washington, but exceptional leaders in private industry do themselves well by using it.
I don't know why you are so presumptuous that you'd make all of those outlandish assumptions about where I stand on any given issue -- especially since my progression of preferred candidates in the GOP primary process was almost identical to yours.
You seem obsessed on another point. If I said we should make Muslims, as such, extinct, I misspoke. I have nothing against the simple goat lovers, the falaffel makers, and the rest of the rank and file jerks. I just want NONE of them here. If you love them so much, join the Demonrat Party that is planning to double down on stupidity by making Muslim Keith Ellison its DNC Chairthing.
I note that you present no practical plan whatsoever for dealing with this menace of Islamolunatics about to be armed with nukes thanks to Obozo and Kerry and a supine GOP Senate caucus that prefers to kiss Obozo's ass rather defend our country or by noting the CONSTITUTIONAL requirement of a vote of 2/3 vote of the Senate to ratify ANY treaty. That does not seem to bother you either. All you seem to have as a plan is Wait forever until we are all dead of old age and whatever you do, don't upset the crazy Muzzies. After all, it is all talk and we can "contain" them while they nuke up and launch on us. Then you will say: But, but, it wasn't supposed to happen that way. How about we guarantee that it won't happen that way by wiping the bastards off the face of the earth?
What would George Patton Do? What would Stormin' Norman do, given a free hand? What would MacArthur do? What would Billy Mitchell do? What would "Bombs Away With Curt LeMay do? Bull Halsey? Ernest King? Hap Arnold? Since Reagan left office, we have not been worthy of their memories.
If your desire for pece at any price prevails, be sensible enough to move out of the path of the radiation from the obvious targets. Barrow, Alaska, perhaps?
If you are not willing to see the Islamofascists wiped out as necessary and well BEFORE thy are able to attack us, then you are no conservative.
George McGovern cried Peace! Peace! but, as usual, there was no peace because we had enemies to fight.
Unfortunately, we had Johnson and Nixon screwing everything up by "fighting" wars that they had absolutely NO INTENTION OF WINNING. How many boys died or were crippled to argue over the shape of the surrender table in Paris where John F'n (Did you know he served the Viet Cong in Vietnam and in Paris and in Washington?) Kerry was busy canoodling with his allies and our enemies?
Johnson was in love with meeting soviet leaders in "summits" showing presumably that Americans are people too or some such drivel. Nixon had a "secret plan" for selling out our allies and lying that it was a victory. When he was driven from office, he was replaced by that total embarrassment and disgrace Gerald Ford. Nixon and Ford and Kissinger were actual internationalists, globalists or whatever the Birchers' cliche of the week may be but they were the real thing and the US suffered greatly for it.
Personally, I think that Bilderbergers have a purpose. Conservatives should have two or three of them with ketchup for lunch whenever we gather. Make mine verrrry rare.
CONSERVATISM'S FOREIGN POLICY is INTERVENTIONISM without a bye your leave from the UN, the CFR, the Bilderbergers, the Warburgs, the Trilateral Commission, the EU, the UN o+r+ any other nation or busybody. If it is in our interest, DO IT and WIN permanently, spectacularly and verrrrry memorably.
As Trump said again and again: We don't WIN any more. I take him at his word that once he takes the oath of office we will get sick of doing nothing but winning. We haven't WON since World War II and it is about time to end that sorry streak of Establishment $$$$$ cowardice.
If Congress hasn't the sense to repeal that idiot law, then call Mattis back to active duty, make him Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, appoint whomever he wants to be Army Chief of Staff, Navy Chief of Staff, Air Force Chief of Staff, key subordinates of each, Army Secretary, Navy Secretary, Air Force Secretary, and name Mary Who Has a Little Lamb as Secretary of Defense, tell her to go tend the sheep, and recognize Mattis as being in charge. Return to calling the "Defense" Department the WAR Department as the Founders provided. This is not nuclear physics unless the Ohio Class subs must get involved.
I assume even the quislings and idiots on Capitol Hill have not prohibited bringing brilliant officers back to active duty to clean up the messes left by Comrade Imam Obozo and to deal with our enemies as they need dealing with. While we are at it, ANYONE promoted by Obozo should be assumed to be history unless they make an infallible case why not, including people of no discernible credentials, queers, transgenders and the rest of the weirdoAmerican community. We WILL ask and they WILL tell or, if their answers are not both truthful and what we want, out they go. The courts can bear in mind that military decisions belong to POTUS not the judiciary so the nosy fedjudges can butt out and mind their own business rather than concocting "equal protection" for queers decisions to micromanage and wreck the military. Bring out of retirement the senior noncoms forced into retirement by Comrade Imam Obozo. They are the backbone if any military. They were cashiered for patriotism and effectiveness. Maybe we should issue them bonuses equal to lost pay less pensions, tax free.
Regrettably, Reagan just barely failed to take Gerald Ford out of our national misery in 1976 but even Jimmuh Peanut took the idiot out in the general and set an even lower standard for Oval Office idiocy not equaled or surpassed until Obozo. Have you noticed that Jimmuh misspends his retirement years, running all around the world apologizing for America and canoodling with our enemies and kissing their asses and bleating Peace, Peace! and calling Venezuela's elections "honest while mouthing off about the SCOTUS decision seating Dubya after the hanging chads fiasco trying to alter ballots to elect AlBore?"
More lately we have had Bush the Elder, Slick Willie, Dubya and Comrade Imam Obozo presiding over surrender on the installment plan. Enough is more than enough!
Why am I presumptuous? I had a cousin in the Marine Corps in Korea wich we lost. That same cousin was i the Mariie Corps still when our noble hero JFK sent him steaming to Cuba to back up the Bay of Pigs folks who were Cubans invading to take out Comrade Castro. JFK (all Profile, No Courage) wimped out, canceled the air cover for the Cubans, recalled the Marines to their home port, while they Cubans were under radio silence. Eisenhower had planned that invasion and whatever his shortcomings, Ike knew a thing or two about amphibious invasions. They got cut to ribbons on the beaches. As a law student, I did fundraisers to raise $$$ for another invasion in the early 1970s under Jose de la Torriende (head of Cuban Coca Cola before Castro). Castro had Torriende murdered in Miami.
JFK went on national TV to demand on spite inspectio of Cuba to see to it that the soviet missiles had been removed. He then wimped out. No on site inspection just some photos of something shaped like missiles under canvas on board Russky freighters in a Cuban harbor. You can bet the missiles never left but the usual gang of media suspects including Comrade Cronkite ballyhooed JFK for his "heroism."
Robert (truly) Strange MacNamara lied his way through ur ineffective efforts in Vietnam. Lots of demoralizing casualties. I had a parish priest whose brother, also a priest, was beheaded by the Viet Cong for bringing North Vietnamese children south to freedom. He was also instructing them in the Faith. First the pulled out his tongue and severed it (speak no evil). Then they punctured the eardrums of the children (hear no evil). Then they beheaded the priest. They also murdered a wonderful young black woman named Phillippa Schuyler, an accomplished piano virtuoso and a member of Young Americans for Freedom's Board of Directors as she ferried more innocent children across a river in Vietnam. Her father, George Schuyler, was the long time publisher of a successful black conservative newspaper in Pittsburgh.
That war effort was doomed by the timidity of our politicians, their desire NOT to win, their willingness to make victory impossible, the determination of a much more militant enemy AND he determined efforts of the Americong in our streets: Abbie Hoffman, Jerry, Rubin, Bill Ayers, Bernadette the Radical Queen Dorn, Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, "Defense Minister" Huey P. Newton, "Chairman" Bobby Seale, Students for a Demonratic Society, John Kerry and a host of other tolerated traitors. At least the Ohio National Guard got to nail a few at Kent State where the Americong burned the ROTC building. Only 4 were killed. Too bad it wasn't 40 or 400. Ayers wanted to bomb a USO dance at Fort Dix to teach New Jersey girls to have nothing to do with soldiers or they would be blown up spoiled rich brat Ayers whose father was chairman of Illinois's Commonwealth Edison power company and poured plenty of $$$$$$ into the radicals' coffers. A firing squad was too good for Ayers, Sr.
More examples available on request. That should suffice. When you buy off on their peace at any price agenda, you are joining their support for our nation's enemies. THAT is not conservatism. My assumptions are not outlandish at all. You may disagree with my diagnosis and I would not want to be known for the sad reality that is you ad others like you. My country has taken enough guff and been betrayed more than enough by its quisling coward politicians. We don't need "conservatives" becoming Kumbayas. Never did. Don't now. Never will.
You can be pro-life, pro-family, anti taxes, anti spending and 50 other conservative things but your ideas on foreign policy and military policy are a disgrace and consistent with the anti-American left not any cognizable form of actual conservatism. Yours is the path rejected once and for all 75 years ago after Pearl Harbor. It ain't coming back.
The foregoing and a LOT more are my reasons. I have despised anti-war traitors and idjits as the World War II generation of men in my family (many of them labor union leaders on a local level and most Democrats but ALL of them military veterans. Three years before I was born, my mother's brother was killed when the USS Buck, a destroyer, was sunk off Salerno chasing Nazi U-Boats (sunk one the day before the Buck went down. He was the family star. He was alive when pulled from the water but died of his wounds shortly thereafter. Although his branch of the family was half German, we will NEVER forgive the Nazis or any other enemy of our country. At least he was not cannibalized like many American POWs were by the Japanese at places like Chi Chi Jima.
His widow was my Godmother and his youngest brother was my Godfather. I will keep the Faith with Uncle Bill whom I never had the privilege of knowing and will not tolerate any more antiwar crap even posing as "conservatism." I have had a bellyful and then some. That's why!
And no one else will assume leadership?
Do your subs ensure that as well?
You’re back pedaling from your make them extinct comment because you know it can’t happen.
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