Posted on 04/26/2016 10:52:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
For the past month, a media narrative has taken hold that something must be done to reform, simplify, streamline, and democratize the delegate selection system of the Republican presidential nomination process.
Is our GOP presidential primary system rigged, meaning it is corrupt because it favors the establishment? Is it convoluted, arbitrary, arcane...and too often "voteless"? Is it wrong to allow "Trojan horse" delegates to change their vote on the second ballot of the national convention? Why do we have a separate election for delegates after we vote for candidates?
The system is not rigged, convoluted, arbitrary, arcane, or voteless. It is a system that encourages the grassroots to participate in party platform issues, the selection of candidates, the choosing of a candidate winner, and the allocation of party resources. The system is designed to keep the party alive and well by allowing current ideas and candidates to be tested and new ideas and candidates to be heard.
Here is what I mean. If you think the primary system we have now is no good, try imagining this: each state and territory holds an open election, the delegates are assigned proportionally to reflect the vote, and those delegates are committed to hold to that candidate for, say, the first 10 ballots. That way you have a pure vote, a fairly precise correlation between how the people vote and how the delegates vote, and no double-crossing on the subsequent ballots. Simple, clean, and easily explained to the voters by the news media.
Under this imagined Pure-Vote system, you would have chaos. In this 2016 cycle, Trump would have 20% fewer delegates as of today, with little chance of getting a majority, ever unless he were to negotiate for Kasich's and Rubio's delegates before the convention.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
:) You’re welcome...
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The system isn’t “Rigged” — the establishment is just trying to protect us from candidates they don’t like.
As an analogy I’m reminded of a case a couple of years back in Salt Lake City where a cop shot and killed some teenager who was sitting in his car doing nothing. There was some brouhaha but the Department concluded that the cop had done no wrong because he was “following Department procedure”. We see these sorts of excuses a lot. The establishment makes up some rules themselves and then acts as if the rules are mandated by God or State Law or some other such nonsense. It’s like as if, for example, the teachers make up a rule that they can confiscate student’s personal property permanently. Then they take the stuff home and give it to their relatives and then they claim that they were “following the rules”.
This is where we get perversion being forced on children by the schools. Some unelected educrat sicko invents “rules” designed to create oversexualized kids that he plans to obtain sex from. Then they pretend that the “rules” are some sort of mandate from higher authority. Like is happening right now in our schools.
Yeah “Rules”. “Rules” made up by crooks to defend their own depredations.
I don’t like what the article says.
It is not pro-Trump, therefore it is not pro-FR.
Why are we still having to see threads like this on FR? I thought we were free of this now.
Citizen, do you not value your senority on FR? I see you have 9 years. It would be a shame for you to be demoted to newb, just because you can’t get your mind right.
Agreed DO.
In regards to the constant defense on this issue, all I have to say is that at this point it doesn’t just matter. The meme has been set, Cruz is viewed as a smarmy cheater and THAT is what counts today.
That’s the way it should be....
That’s like liberal’s “participation trophies”...
Either you win or you lose...All or nothing...
I'll take a shot at that. We should take away the states right to decide their GOP primary process and let some super-smart operatives in Washington DC decide the system. Or just let John Roberts and Sonia Sotomayor decide. The grass-roots rubes in the 50 states have no right to make any election rules. /sarc
Colorado republicans have no right to decide their primary election rules. We should let Reinse Priebus, or Mitch McConnell, or perhaps a real estate developer from NY decide. These super-smart people in NY and Washington DC are much smarter than the knucklehead in Colorado.
Colorado?
What if no candidate has a majority of the delegates? The GOP should nominate a candidate with 40% of the popular vote?
or the majority of delegates in Missouri when the vote was nearly tied-
Primaries, which are run by state governments, need not be related to political parties at all. The two parties have used laws to favor themselves.
The only practical alternative to private associations like political parties is a jungle primary with the top two finishers facing off, unless plurality decides the winner. A plurality winner system wouldn’t last long. Again, I’m speaking of a situation without political parties.
Yes.
And don’t run 17 people who have zero chance of winning for president next time like a bunch of friggin’ idiots.
Well, he is viewed that way.
Man what a self-destructive course this guy took this last year.
“What if no candidate has a majority of the delegates?”
One candidate will always have a majority, one more than the other guy is a majority
The entire primary system, just like the entire general election is rigged, its rigged by the folks in power to in every way stay in power.... that’s the nature of our system, has been from the get go...
This provides some incredible stability to our government, and also makes it that more incredible when someone or something upsets that apple cart.... it takes incredible momentum and culmination of events to overcome the inertia inherently and intentionally put into the system to bring about change.
Now, with that said, I don’t complain about Cruz or the GOPe trying to use the rules to their advantage, of course they are going to do that, that is why those rules are put into place.... To ensure that they won’t lose their power on a momentary whim of the unwashed masses.
May not be fair, but that’s how it is, and it is that way for a reason... Complaining about it though doesn’t change it, the way to change it is to win in spite of all their barriers.
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