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Top Republicans believe Paul Ryan will be nominee
Washington Post ^ | 4/4/16 | Mike Allen

Posted on 04/04/2016 6:14:42 AM PDT by Mechanicos

On the eve of the Wisconsin primaries, top Republicans are becoming increasingly vocal about their long-held belief that Speaker Paul Ryan will wind up as the nominee, perhaps on the fourth ballot at a chaotic Cleveland convention.

One of the nation’s best-wired Republicans, with an enviable prediction record for this cycle, sees a 60 percent chance of a convention deadlock and a 90 percent chance that delegates turn to Ryan — ergo, a 54 percent chance that Ryan, who’ll start the third week of July as chairman of the Republican National Convention, will end it as the nominee.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
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To: kara37

What if Ryan’s primary opponent wins, who does the gop-e back then?


221 posted on 04/04/2016 8:29:55 AM PDT by txhurl (Unity: we can take ALL the marbles now. It's now or never.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Either they offered him something in return (perhaps a promise not to back an establishment candidate in the Senate primary in TX), or he’s just doing this out of spite.

I think we have to try and put ourselves in Cruz’s shoes to understand what is currently motivating him. This has been a vicious contest; he has worked very hard; he is very ambitious. He believes in himself and what he believes he can accomplish. It is easy to lose your perspective when you get in this deep. I believe he is a Christian and I believe that he will be led to do the right thing once it becomes clear that it is no longer mathematically possible for him to reach a majority of delegates before the convention. The right thing will be to work together with Trump. I believe that it is going to happen, but the transition will have to be made carefully. It is time for all of us on both sides to begin coming together, so that we can win this thing.


222 posted on 04/04/2016 8:30:53 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: kara37
Cruz will win on the second ballot, and there is nothing the RNC can do about it.

How I wish that it were so, but I have been involved in local politics. The people who get to go to the convention are the people who have been involved in the party the longest and have given the most. This is true all over the country. The party insiders all know this. In Tennessee, they not only wouldn't nominate Trump and Cruz people to be delegates, they wouldn't even let them attend the party meeting.

If no candidate gets a majority of pledged delegates before the convention the party bosses will pick the nominee and it will not be Cruz or Trump. We must start looking at what the actual outcome is likely to be. The time for animosity around here is now behind us. It is time we all start working together, or we will lose.

223 posted on 04/04/2016 8:39:57 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: Mechanicos

We should all be backing Ryan’s primary challenger. His name is Paul Nehlen. He is a tea party type businessman who is rightly calling Ryan a traitor. His website is taking donations as little as $10. Even if you don’t live in Wisconsin’s first district you can help take down Ryan. Paul Ryan’s cronyism and deception needs to be stopped now.

www.paulnehlen.com


224 posted on 04/04/2016 8:41:06 AM PDT by michelala (I'm sticking with Trump)
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To: JmyBryan

Sorry. I get to vote the primary based on my principles and always have. And as long as there is someone still running at the time of my primary who is not Trump, that person will get my vote.


225 posted on 04/04/2016 8:42:50 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Brasky

I and many here are now done with the GOP. Sick of their crap and changing rules to suit their needs and not the people or the country.


226 posted on 04/04/2016 8:44:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: fireman15

You speak truth. Cruz people are naive if they think the long term party insiders/donors who make up almost all the unbound and much of the bound delegates are going to nominate Cruz.


227 posted on 04/04/2016 8:45:52 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Attend a Trump Rally and get to "Punch a Commie for Mommy.")
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To: manc

Yep. I say good riddance.


228 posted on 04/04/2016 8:46:10 AM PDT by Brasky (You miss every shot you never take.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Hillary appreciates your support.


229 posted on 04/04/2016 8:46:31 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Attend a Trump Rally and get to "Punch a Commie for Mommy.")
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To: TigerClaws

Ryan won’t get my vote


230 posted on 04/04/2016 8:48:31 AM PDT by RaginRak
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To: scooby321

“A Indicted Hillary Clinton would win 50 States against Ryan”

Considering that well over half of Republicans and Independents will stay home, yeah, she would.


231 posted on 04/04/2016 8:50:05 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: 9YearLurker

No, 9, the Trump delegates ARE NOT LETTING GO!

Now, given that, give me your scenario again.

CA....


232 posted on 04/04/2016 8:50:55 AM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: kara37; LS; manc; fireman15
Of course, he knows the establishment doesn’t want him. Why do you think he has been lining up delegates like crazy for the second ballot? Sure, they have some power over some delegates in certain states. However, most delegates are just people that tend to be a lot more conservative than the republicans in Washington. Cruz will win on the second ballot, and there is nothing the RNC can do about it.

Delegates pledged to Cruz (or Trump) aren't pledged to them because they support or like them, but because they've been assigned to do so following primaries or caucuses. Most of these delegates are small-time political operatives and other hacks beholden to the RNC, and they will support an establishment candidate in the second round, when they're no longer pledged to Cruz or Trump. If we have a brokered convention, say hello to nominee Ryan, Bush, Romney, or Rubio.

The Cruz vs. Trump fight is basically a replay of past primaries: anti-establishment candidates split the conservative/populist/libertarian vote, while the establishment coalesces around one candidate. The only difference is this coalescing will happen among delegates rather than individual voters.

233 posted on 04/04/2016 8:52:01 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Nifster

Ditto for me


234 posted on 04/04/2016 8:52:12 AM PDT by RaginRak
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To: RaginRak

Please tell us again, why do you like hillary.

What do you see in her.

What is more important America or your private bias?


235 posted on 04/04/2016 8:52:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson was my guy but now is a Trumplican)
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To: rdl6989
Now Ryan says he rejects the nomination.

He said the same regarding the speakership, until they came crawling with offers he couldn't ignore.

He has said the same regarding the Republican presidential nomination, until they come crawling with offers can't refuse.

It is just political rhetoric. Just like Kasich saying he isn't running for VP, when, at most, that is all he can get.

Never believe what a politician says about running for another political office. THEY LIE.


236 posted on 04/04/2016 8:53:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: manc

“Put up or shut up and grow up, because people like you make this place looking more and more like DU.”

The number of false-flag posters from DU and elsewhere has jumped dramatically in recent weeks, so it’s not surprising if it looks more like DU.


237 posted on 04/04/2016 8:56:36 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: driftdiver

“If Trump is such a great deal maker why can’t he figure out a way to work with the GOP?”

Do you want a president who can work with scumbags?

Trump thinks he can get along with the demonrats, because he was able to when he was saying the right things and bribing them.

I think even he will be aghast at the savagery with which they will turn on him.


238 posted on 04/04/2016 9:00:55 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Mechanicos

These top Republicans will be bottoms soon!


239 posted on 04/04/2016 9:01:19 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: ek_hornbeck
Delegates pledged to Cruz (or Trump) aren't pledged to them because they support or like them, but because they've been assigned to do so following primaries or caucuses. Most of these delegates are small-time political operatives and other hacks beholden to the RNC, and they will support an establishment candidate in the second round, when they're no longer pledged to Cruz or Trump. If we have a brokered convention, say hello to nominee Ryan, Bush, Romney, or Rubio.
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I understand they are bound on the first ballot. I was referring to lining up delegates for the second ballot.

However, lets say that I agree with you, that all the delegates will vote however the RNC tells them. Why are all the Trump people going nuts over Ted getting his preferred delegate slate? According to you, it doesn't matter anyway, and Ted is just wasting his time.

240 posted on 04/04/2016 9:02:36 AM PDT by kara37
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