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Fears of Trump as Fascist Echo Similar Warnings Against Ronald Reagan
NY SUN ^ | 2/29/16 | Ira Stoll

Posted on 03/01/2016 12:45:49 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

How panicked should we be about the rise of Donald Trump? A professor at Harvard, Danielle Allen, recently published a widely shared op-ed piece in the Washington Post likening his rise to that of Hitler...

...such Hitler hype has happened before, and been unwarranted. Steven Hayward, author of “The Age of Reagan,” recalls the rhetoric:

Democratic Rep. William Clay of Missouri charged that Reagan was “trying to replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


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This guy hates Trump, FWIW. But he sees some interesting parallels.

Did you realize the National Review anti-Trump issue says Trump's immigration proposals are too liberal?

1 posted on 03/01/2016 12:45:49 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

That’s surprising since NR had no problems with supporting Mr Amnesty himself, John McCain.


2 posted on 03/01/2016 12:49:25 PM PST by stratboy
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yes, the “media” and its allies in the GOP-E used the same crapweasal accusations against Barry Goldwater in 1964 - some garbage about not denouncing the John Birch Society which barely existed. They were in league with Rockefeller, Scranton and Romney’s father who proceeded to do everything they could to destroy Goldwater after he was nominated. Interesting that we now have Romney Jr., Bush Jr. and the execrable Paul Ryan who are doing exactly the same thing, according to playbook. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some support and money sent flying from these “Republicans’ to Hillary Clinton.


3 posted on 03/01/2016 12:50:39 PM PST by laconic (M)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fascism can not exist without an all powerful and massive government.


4 posted on 03/01/2016 12:51:53 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: stratboy

They STILL don’t realize that the more they put out shit like this all it does is harden trumps support.

Ive listened to a lot of radio today and I’ve heard people calling in to various shows. They’re angry and it’s getting worse with all this crap flying around.


5 posted on 03/01/2016 12:52:19 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: SoFloFreeper

Societies under heavy stress often give rise to dictators or messiahs. Fidel Castro was seen as a liberator, even in the US, from the harsh Batista regime. I remember guys in high school talking about going to Cuba and signing up to “fight for Castro.” Hitler is only the most obvious example. There have been many more. Some good, some not.


6 posted on 03/01/2016 12:54:49 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Fears of Trump as Fascist Echo Similar Warnings Against Ronald Reagan

Yeah, but back then it was liberal Democrats who were issuing those warnings.

But now true conservatives are issuing them, and they're worth listening to.

(And yes, I'll vote for Trump against Hillary, but I'll be holding my nose while praying that Divine Providence leads him along the proper path to restore liberty in America.)

7 posted on 03/01/2016 12:56:43 PM PST by Maceman
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To: SoFloFreeper

I for one don’t think Trump is a closet fascist (though he does exhibit some authoritarian tendencies). I just don’t believe he’s intent on making good on his promises.. especially the “negotiable” ones.


8 posted on 03/01/2016 12:57:11 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: Maceman
(And yes, I'll vote for Trump against Hillary, but I'll be holding my nose while praying that Divine Providence leads him along the proper path to restore liberty in America.)

Ditto here. Once the nomination is decided, and if it's Trump, he's going to have to be dragged across the finish line.

9 posted on 03/01/2016 12:58:12 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What is “fascism”, anyway? It is just another face of socialism, the mindless binding together of vast legions of people who use their “democratic” base as a means to achieve tyranny.

The “tyranny of the majority” is used as an excuse to totally suppress any minority dissident voices.

“Fascism” is often confused and conflated with “capitalism”, and in one sense, that may be true, if the widely despised “crony capitalism” is judged to be the only form of capitalism that exists. Fascism combines the corporations and state into the “corporate state”, with the state not actually owning the means of production and distribution outright, but with an iron control over even the most intimate and minute details of the inside operation of the corporation. Corporations exist only for the distribution of the fruits of production to be handed out in an “equitable” manner to ALL people, whether they are productively employed by the corporation or not, with the state being the arbiter of what is “equitable”.

Sounds just about like the system in place in the territory once known as “the United States of America” already.


10 posted on 03/01/2016 1:04:28 PM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Reagan wasn’t a pathological liar, misogynist, serial adulterer and could explain why he left the Democrat Party. Trump on the other hand can’t explain or won’t explain what made him suddenly become a Conservative. The best answer you can get is “You’re a loser!” Sadly such playground intellect appeals to far too many.


11 posted on 03/01/2016 1:19:50 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: SoFloFreeper

The vitriol agains’t Trump is now nearing hysteria. I expect it to die down some after he wins big tonight then all but wraps the nomination up on the 15th. At that point the fat lady will be singing.


12 posted on 03/01/2016 1:27:34 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Ajnin

I don’t recall a Reagan University fraud lawsuit either.


13 posted on 03/01/2016 1:45:42 PM PST by Techjock
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To: SoFloFreeper

Same old shi’ite..


14 posted on 03/01/2016 1:55:28 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Danielle Allen, recently published a widely shared op-ed piece in the Washington Post likening his rise to that of Hitler...such Hitler hype has happened before, and been unwarranted. Steven Hayward, author of "The Age of Reagan," recalls the rhetoric: Democratic Rep. William Clay of Missouri charged that Reagan was "trying to replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf."
What are their FR nicks?


15 posted on 03/01/2016 3:55:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

In the minds of your average leftist (and moderates are leftists that just can’t admit it), anyone to the right of Pol Pot is a fascist.


16 posted on 03/01/2016 11:41:16 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Did you realize the National Review anti-Trump issue says Trump's immigration proposals are too liberal?

They are. Trump's touchback amnesty will produce millions of future Democrats.

17 posted on 03/04/2016 8:44:17 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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