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Cibolo Creek Ranch owner recalls Scalia’s last hours in Texas(Pillow over his head)
Houston Chronicle ^ | February 14 | John MacCormack

Posted on 02/14/2016 1:37:21 PM PST by PghBaldy

"We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head. His bed clothes were unwrinkled," said Poindexter.

"He was lying very restfully. It looked like he had not quite awakened from a nap," he said. Scalia,79, did not have a pulse and his body was cold, and after consulting with a doctor at a hospital in Alpine, Poindexter concluded resuscitation would have been futile, He then contacted federal authorities, at first encountering a series of answering services because he was calling on a weekend.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; antoninscalia; asphyxiation; cibolocreekranch; election2016; murder; pillow; poindexter; scalia; scaliacauseofdeath; scotus; texas
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To: Yaelle

I am...10 Gallon one.


101 posted on 02/14/2016 7:09:03 PM PST by madison10
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To: Marie

“it perfectly illustrates how the government mangles *everything*.”

I don’t think the Houston Chronicle nor Mr. Pointdexter are gubmint agents.

Regardless, Scalia’s multiple stab wounds to his lower back appear to be due to natural causes.


102 posted on 02/14/2016 7:10:59 PM PST by sagar (3 way race; cranky populist - Trump/Sanders, establishment - Hillary/Kaysick, conservative - Cruz!)
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To: GraceG

I do the same thing, leftover survival skill from college days and a roommate who returned to the dorm room in wee morning hours.


103 posted on 02/14/2016 7:12:39 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

I just can’t get over someone carelessly saying he had a pillow over his head. How about some specifics. Of course people would wonder if he was murdered. Twitter has lit up after this was put on Drudge.

Scott Nicol ‏@MacNicol1957

Scalia was found by ranch owner in bed with a pillow over his head and pajamas like they were just put on! Texas Judge orders no autopsy!


104 posted on 02/14/2016 7:16:49 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: PghBaldy

I’m pretty thin in the hair dept. When I don’t feel good, my head gets real cold and I often sleep with a stocking cap or pillow over my head.


105 posted on 02/14/2016 7:16:54 PM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: PghBaldy

From the dupe thread:

“No one sleeps like a corpse for 8 hours with hands folded on their chest unless maybe he was doped up on pain meds or something.”

Not unless you are Vince Foster!


106 posted on 02/14/2016 7:17:30 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Pillows can levitate, right?


107 posted on 02/14/2016 7:18:21 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: RummyChick

Begining to sound like Charles McCarry’s novel, “Shelley’s Heart”, 1995 in which a Chief Justice is murdered for political purposes.

From this crisis, master storyteller Charles McCarry, author of such classic thrillers as The Tears of Autumn and The Last Supper weaves a masterpiece of political intrigue. Shelley’s Heart is so gripping in its realism and so striking in its foresight that McCarry’s devoted readers may view this tale of love, murder, betrayal, and life-or-death struggles for the political soul of America as an act of prophecy.

Charles McCarry was a career CIA intelligence field officer


108 posted on 02/14/2016 7:25:25 PM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by Maybe even a d who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

This could be woven into quite a tale of intrigue.

Meanwhile, it’s like the Three Stooges of Law Enforcement with what is coming out about the circumstances of his death.

This pillow on his head is mystifying. They should have been more careful with the characterization. Since it showed up on Drudge...twitter is having a field day.


109 posted on 02/14/2016 7:29:25 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

pillow over his head???????? no rumpled sheets. Are there some doctors or nurses here that can tell me if this sounds right for a heart attack?????

He might have died with lack of Oxygen maybe?


110 posted on 02/14/2016 7:30:06 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: VerySadAmerican
idn’t just lie there with their hands crossed on their chest.

My dad died of a first time heart attack at age 56 while I was with him. We were at a political debate and he was grilling a liberal running for state house when he collapsed. He fell forward and rolled over on his back as he landed. His hands were crossed on his chest as if placed there in the casket. And he never moved again. We did CPR until the fire department got there, but he was gone. No wrinkled clothes, no grasping his heart, no nothing... just collapse.

I don't know what happened to Scalia... no idea... but I do know it's not always like they show on the movies or television when a person has a heart attack.

111 posted on 02/14/2016 7:34:19 PM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: gaijin
Clinton leaving Ron Brown funeral (Rush Limbaugh narrating)

112 posted on 02/14/2016 7:35:05 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen (Was addicted to the Hokey Pokey...but I turned myself around...((@))
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To: daniel1212

I dunno, usually when you find dead folks with pillows over their heads it at least rates an autopsy and closer examination. No?


113 posted on 02/14/2016 7:39:09 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: laplata

Clothesline?

OK now, link please!


114 posted on 02/14/2016 7:46:55 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Fred Hayek
Background
 
On April 3, 1996, while transporting Mr. Brown and 34 others, an Air Force CT-43 executive transport crashed near Dubrovnik, Croatia. Thirty-three of the bodies, including Ron Brown's, were flown to Dover Air Force Base, Delaware, where they were examined by AFIP personnel. At the time of the crash, Mr. Brown was under investigation by the Office of Independent Counsel (Mr. Daniel Pearson was the Special Prosecutor) and was under subpoena to produce documents concerning the sale of seats on trade missions in a civil law suit by Judicial Watch. The official determination of the cause of Mr. Brown's death was blunt force trauma.
 
On November 24, 1997, shortly after the Air Force released a voluminous report of its investigation of the crash, an article concerning the report was published in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. On December 3, another article included statements by one of the pathologists on the AFIP team, Lt. Colonel Steven Cogswell (USAF), that there was a perfectly round hole, inward-beveled, in Mr. Brown's skull that looked like a bullet hole. However, no autopsy was performed.
 
On December 5, Cogswell was put under a gag order. At about that time, he was escorted to his home by military police who seized all case materials on the Brown case.
 
On December 9, Lt. Colonel David Hause (U.S. Army) another AFIP pathologist and a leading expert on gun shot wounds, confirmed Cogswell's statements. The gag order was broadened to include all AFIP personnel.
 
On January 8, 1998, the Department of Justice reported that it had looked into the matter and saw no reason to launch an investigation. No one from DOJ talked to Cogswell or Hause.
 
On January 9, the Washington Post reported that the AFIP had convened a review panel of all its pathologists that had unanimously concluded that Brown died of blunt force trauma and that the hole was not a gunshot wound. But Cogswell says he refused to participate in the review and that the only pathologists with expertise in bullet wounds dissented (I.e., himself, Hause & Major Thomas Parsons of the USAF).
 
 
Shortly after the Post article, Major Parsons came forth to indicate his dissent to the so-called "unanimous" board conclusion.
 
On January 13, a fourth member of the AFIP team, Chief Petty Officer Janoski, came forth to confirm the account of the skull hole. She further indicated that she had been told by Jeanmarie Sentelle, a Special Agent with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, that x-rays of Brown's skull had been destroyed after the "lead snowstorm" was discovered. According to Sentelle, a "lead snowstorm" on x-rays is caused by bullet fragments when a bullet disintegrates upon impact.
 
Also on January 13, Cogswell, Parsons, Janoski and Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch met with Congressman John Conyers, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. The Caucus is composed of 30 Congressmen, all
 
Democrats. The Caucus called for a Congressional investigation and was supported by the NAACP, the Nation of Islam and Dick Gregory.
 
On February 12, a Petition to Order Continuation of the Independent Counsel's Investigation into Matters Related to Former Secretary of Commerce Ronald H. Brown was filed in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. The NAACP and Dick Gregory filed documents in support of the petition. Apparently the court declined to decide the matter and referred it to Mr. Pearson for action. Apparently no action has been taken.
 
Although the mainstream media was eerily silent about most of the developments outlined here, Black Entertainment Television and Christian Broadcasting Network and a few others provided some coverage. Talk radio has provided coverage of the matter. Unfortunately most people know nothing about the hole in the skull.

115 posted on 02/14/2016 7:48:12 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen (Was addicted to the Hokey Pokey...but I turned myself around...((@))
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To: PghBaldy

Alex Jones is already saying that Scalia was killed. Was feeling fine the night before, no recent health issues. Big Cases in the next 3 months. So far No Autopsy and the he died of natural causes within a few minutes of death?


116 posted on 02/14/2016 7:50:43 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: WildHighlander57

I was playing along with all the conspiracy theory chat.


117 posted on 02/14/2016 7:52:31 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: RummyChick

I sleep with a pillow partially over my eyes to block light, but not over my entire face. Also, I witneswed the dead body of a family friend who had died of a heart attack. Left arm was clenched to his chest from pain. Very obvious. Curled in the fetal position.


118 posted on 02/14/2016 7:52:45 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Yeah that bit of info is a bit strange, why would someone put the pillow OVER their head

Probably to cover up the cinder block embedded in his skull. This is all natural our government tells us, so nothing to be concerned about.

119 posted on 02/14/2016 7:57:09 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: RummyChick

Pronouncing cause of death over the phone I find the most bizarre.

“Could you please put the handset to his heart so I can hear?”

There have been more than a few odd ME stories out of Tarrant County that generated a few threads here.


120 posted on 02/14/2016 7:59:34 PM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by Maybe even a d who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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