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Former CIA chief in Benghazi challenges film version of 2012 attacks
WaPo ^ | 1/15/16 | Adam Goldman and Greg Miller

Posted on 01/15/2016 10:04:36 AM PST by Nachum

It is the most fateful moment in a movie that purports to present a searingly accurate account of the 2012 attacks that left four Americans dead in Benghazi, Libya: a scene in which the highest-ranking CIA operative at a secret agency compound orders his security team to “stand down” rather than rush off to rescue U.S. diplomats under siege less than a mile away.

According to the officer in charge of the CIA’s Benghazi base that night, the scene in the movie is entirely untrue.

“There never was a stand-down order,” said the base chief known as Bob, speaking publicly for the first time. “At no time did I ever second-guess that the team would depart.”

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To: Leaning Right
backed up by Carol and Ted and Alice

That there is funny.

I was going to go with the old junior high stand-by. "Now I know why they call you Bob."

Why?

"'Cause you should bob up and kiss my ass."

41 posted on 01/15/2016 10:53:49 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Nachum

Interesting that “Bob” was not allowed to tell his side while the book was being written, but now gets to criticize the results anonymously, including specific contents of the film version he says he hasn’t seen. I have no doubt that his honest perception of some events would vary from that of others, and that his interest in the matter would distort his memory and presentation.

But the WAPO Journolists omitted to ask (or at least tell us): were there standing orders or plans NOT to intervene? (So that Stand Down orders aren’t required). What is Bob’s knowledge about resources beyond his immediate command, such as drones, AC130 Spectre, rescue teams? His comments in this article do not mention them. What were Bob and his team doing in Benghazi? Was Bob responsible for security planning for his CIA op AND the “diplomatic mission”? Why did Bob have to rely on “friendly” Islamist militias to come to his aid, when the main threat would be attacks by Islamist militias? Did he think this was a brilliant concept, or was it imposed on him? By whom? Did Bob get permission from the CIA to do the interview? Did he initiate the interview and permission process, or was he directed to spin up his partial story at this time? By whom?

Did Gowdy’s Benghazi Committee have a chance to interview Bob? (Not that it would matter).


42 posted on 01/15/2016 10:57:10 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: VRWCarea51
This is Bob


43 posted on 01/15/2016 10:58:17 AM PST by Spunky
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To: Nachum
Little Dick Gephardt's imaginary friend "Bob" peeps, "It's not twoo! It's not twoo!"


44 posted on 01/15/2016 11:01:30 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Onambla: Marxist-Muslim crack-smoking closet queen Exp 1-20-17)
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To: vette6387

I’m thinking I’d put Bob in a room with the three “contractors” and whoever comes out alive is telling the truth. Whad’ya think “Bob”?


45 posted on 01/15/2016 11:06:08 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter

Bob? Bob don’t live here any more man!


46 posted on 01/15/2016 11:10:55 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: Nachum
"Stand down" is a colloquialism, or a metaphor, for whatever order was given that did not result in help being sent. The Administration and it's defenders have latched onto that, and because nobody will acknowledge saying those two specific words, they deny it.

But someone, somewhere, must have been told what forces were available, and someone in the military would have asked if they should be sent. And that person said "no". So all we want to know is who that person was. And they refuse to tell us.

47 posted on 01/15/2016 11:24:12 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Nachum

Gee I wonder why he would do that?


48 posted on 01/15/2016 11:33:46 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Nachum

Well .. the stats are .. 3 of the heroes, against ONE commander who probably got in trouble for allowing those guys to try to save the Ambassador.


49 posted on 01/15/2016 11:50:17 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: UCANSEE2

What’s interesting to me is that I’ve seen elsewhere that an Ambassador being taken captive is an “all hands on deck go ASAP” operation and there isn’t supposed to be any CIA CYA.

Nice to know that an Ambassador is expendable with this administration.


50 posted on 01/15/2016 11:54:04 AM PST by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: Autonomous User

According to the book, which I believe, Bob gave the order, and was MIA during all the fighting, yet given one of the CIA’s highest, if not the highest, awards for valor. I also believe the obama CIA is capable of this kind of mendacity, and that the agency, in presenting the award, might very well have been acting under orders from you-know-who.


51 posted on 01/15/2016 12:01:48 PM PST by DPMD
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To: MNJohnnie
We have Hillary emails about a rescue effort spinning up. Who stopped it?

For damn sure, somebody did. Maybe it wasn't "Bob". But somebody did.

52 posted on 01/15/2016 12:26:05 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: VRWCarea51

Then America has a big problem in Hillary for president.


53 posted on 01/15/2016 1:26:01 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: jmaroneps37

So, does COS “Bob” have a last name? Employee number? It could be anyone..


54 posted on 01/15/2016 1:33:55 PM PST by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe)
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To: Leaning Right
Bob's account is backed up by Carol and Ted and Alice.

LOL...

I wonder how many of the youngsters around here will know why that is SO funny...

55 posted on 01/15/2016 1:37:12 PM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: skeeter

He’s not anonymous, his name is Bob.
You don’t believe Bob?
How can that be?


56 posted on 01/15/2016 1:38:07 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Doc91678

you lie with dogs, you get fleas

you lie with hillary you get lies


57 posted on 01/15/2016 1:41:02 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: Nachum

How many of the CIA operatives have been interviewed, questioned before congress or asked what the hell they were doing in Libya?

I believe the guys that were fighting and dying!


58 posted on 01/15/2016 2:13:05 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: TexasCajun
Did “Bob” tell those navy guys to stand down and let the the Iranians “rescue” them?

If he did, he would not admit it, imho.

59 posted on 01/15/2016 6:19:53 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Nachum

Great action, but....I was still a little disappointed by the movie:

I like military stuff, yes, but by far the most interesting thing about Benghazi was the universal amazement of so many high-ranking military people that no forces were sent to help, when there were AC-130’s both at Sigonella Sicily (which is cloer to Benghazi than Tripoli and hosts a complete US naval air station) and also at our (then secret) base at the old French Foreign Legion base at Djibouti.

The other interesting part ignored by the movie was the very detailed speculation regarding WHY it was so important to Obama and Vallerie Jarrett that they do nothing to help those men.

The re-election was then just 5 or so weeks away, and 110% of their attention regarding Benghazi was how the fighting and any rescue might impact their re-election, which was widely forecast to be a squeeker.

Obama went to sleep and flew to Vegas the next morning for golf with a rapper and for some fundraisers. Most people think the details that night after 6 pm or so were handled by Valerie Jarret and Leon Panetta, who resigned shortly thereafter.

The other part left out totally was just how long and hard they were begging for help on the phone, radio, and even on the internet (seeing how badly they were being ignored by their entire chain of command, the goatee IT specialist guy even begged for help from his videogame friends, and indeed at several junctures the filmmakers show him still darting around during the attack wearing his videogamer headset, which he had been screaming into for several hours)


60 posted on 01/15/2016 6:32:03 PM PST by gaijin
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