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The people that so many of us don’t consider people (Down Syndrome)
NY Post ^ | 12/14/15 | Bethany Mandel

Posted on 12/15/2015 6:54:13 AM PST by wagglebee

"I'm here. I'm alive. I'm human."

That's what John, one of the stars of A&E's new reality show "Born This Way," proclaimed during the premiere episode last week.

You see, John has Down syndrome.

It seems bizarre that someone capable of formulating a sentence thinks it's necessary to defend his own humanity, but sadly, John was speaking for himself and millions of others like him who, based on a prenatal genetic test, were recommended for abortion.

John survived. Most don't.

The statistics are hard to pin down, but experts estimate 90 percent of babies with Down syndrome are never born. Think about the last time you saw a child with the telltale facial features indicative of the genetic condition. It's far more likely you'll see them in an adult, who was born before prenatal testing became routine. That doesn’t mean Down syndrome is becoming less prevalent; it means that parents are less and less likely to carry these pregnancies to term.

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Weeding out genetic diseases like Down, whose sufferers can and still do lead full and healthy lives, is eugenics, pure and simple. The most extreme version of which comes from the barbaric terrorists of ISIS, who reportedly issued a decree to execute babies born with Down and other genetic diseases.

The abortionists and their enablers are no different from ISIS.

1 posted on 12/15/2015 6:54:13 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 12/15/2015 6:54:46 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 12/15/2015 6:55:25 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Hitler also killed babies with Down Syndrome. Why is it that evil always likes hurting the least of us?


4 posted on 12/15/2015 6:58:42 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: wagglebee

It would be interesting to hear their argument against the comparison. Maybe if they tried to formulate one, they’d realize how wrong they are, but perhaps I’m giving them too much credit.


5 posted on 12/15/2015 6:59:52 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

I respect those people who have been born, with or without any birth defects, but I cannot judge every one else by my perspective. Is it not a natural thing for parents to wish for and prefer a healthy baby, with manageable health status? This is far different than what Peter Singer of Princeton suggests, that a child can be ‘made dead’ up till the age of two if they have a poor quality of life. Slippery slopes!


6 posted on 12/15/2015 7:01:46 AM PST by lee martell
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And in some parts of the world, girl babies are aborted just because they are female. I’m always surprised the feminist types never talk about this.

We are on a slippery slope with this.


7 posted on 12/15/2015 7:02:01 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: wagglebee

“Weeding out genetic diseases like Down, whose sufferers can and still do lead full and healthy lives, is eugenics, pure and simple. The most extreme version of which comes from the barbaric terrorists of ISIS, who reportedly issued a decree to execute babies born with Down and other genetic diseases.”

Has the Fraud’s Secretary of State chimed in yet to say that this is “legitimate”, and mention that of course, Sarah Palin has one?


8 posted on 12/15/2015 7:06:43 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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I respect those people who have been born, with or without any birth defects,

How noble of you.

but I cannot judge every one else by my perspective.

So, you're "personally opposed, but..."

Is it not a natural thing for parents to wish for and prefer a healthy baby, with manageable health status?

Mature adults should have long since learned that they don't always get what they wish for.

This is far different than what Peter Singer of Princeton suggests, that a child can be 'made dead' up till the age of two if they have a poor quality of life.

No, it's exactly the same as what Singer proposes.

9 posted on 12/15/2015 7:07:52 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Burke_%28actor%29

This man is 50, has downs and is a lot smarter than your college age millennial libtard.


10 posted on 12/15/2015 7:12:10 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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Remember, liberals want these people killed. That’s one of many reasons we should give no quarter to liberalism in this country whatsoever, and we need to press Preaident Trump or Cruz to completely eradicate liberalism by whatever means is necessary.


11 posted on 12/15/2015 7:13:10 AM PST by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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If there actually was a homosexual gene,(for those claiming to be born that way), I would be against abortion of that potential queer. If there was a maniacal tyrant or murderer gene(like Hitler, Stalin, Jeffery Dahmer, etc.) I would be against the abortion of the potential killer.

BTW, EVERY Down Syndrome person I have ever known is a real sweetheart.


12 posted on 12/15/2015 7:13:16 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: MNDude

I’m not speaking of Der Wanker or other dictators so much as the banal evil of unoppressed men, of these “complicity” comes to mind. And also “validation” for those who are already corrupt.

Romans 1:28-32, the second turning over described in that short section, concludes with the idea that the depraved honor and celebrate others who do likewise. They fashion culture, even what may pass among them for high culture and not just low, around their sin even as they often pat themselves on the back for the “good” that they think is good that they do.

As it says: if the light in you is darkness then how great is that darkness!


13 posted on 12/15/2015 7:15:07 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3372888/posts

Isis issues fatwa to kill them!


14 posted on 12/15/2015 7:16:32 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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And in some parts of the world, girl babies are aborted just because they are female. I’m always surprised the feminist types never talk about this.

Don't be surprised. Feminists never talk about actual misogyny or real oppression of women. If they did, they would find themselves criticizing a lot of brown people, and that hurts their brains. They stick with soft targets.
15 posted on 12/15/2015 7:24:52 AM PST by needmorePaine
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Is it not a natural thing for parents to wish for and prefer a healthy baby, with manageable health status?

Yes, and that is why loving parents provide the best care we're capable of. It's also why we don't murder our children for getting sick.

16 posted on 12/15/2015 7:25:07 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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Which James Bond film was it where the maniacal gozillionaire scientist/sociologist was zipping into space with his perfect people to repopulate the utopia he was creating after depopulating earth and Ted Cassidy (Lurch) and his almost dwarf girlfriend where part of it until they realized they were marked for elimination?


17 posted on 12/15/2015 7:25:37 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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An anecdote for you. I know a couple through my church that were told their baby would be severely handicapped and they should abort. They agonized but carried the child to term. Every single doctor visit was fraught with angst as the doctor repeatedly warned them of what the tests showed. It was an incredibly depressing time with a lot of tears.

That little boy is happy and healthy and the doctors were wrong. No. He doesn't have Down's or any other damn thing wrong with him.

18 posted on 12/15/2015 7:27:32 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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That’s a brave couple who were well informed and still ready to accept whatever should happen. Admirable.


19 posted on 12/15/2015 7:32:40 AM PST by lee martell
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To: Blue Collar Christian

I don’t know the movie you’re talking about, but I do recognize the mindset. I’m struck by the irony of people demanding the extermination of others, based on criteria that would require their own extermination.


20 posted on 12/15/2015 7:33:50 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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