Posted on 12/01/2015 10:41:52 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
The best part is when she asks the obvious follow-up -- is a path to legalization "amnesty"? -- and he won't even make eye contact.
There's a spectrum of answers to this question on the right, of course:
1. Amnesty is citizenship without preconditions. That's the strictest definition, and naturally the one preferred by Beltway Republicans like Marco Rubio in his Gang of Eight days. (Marco Rubio circa 2010 had a different view.) As long as you're forcing illegals to jump through some sort of hoop, be it learning English, paying back taxes, going to the back of the line, etc, that's not amnesty -- even if you're granting them citizenship. Anything short of immediate voting rights for illegals, no questions asked, is A-OK.
2. Amnesty is citizenship. That's Jeb Bush's position, as I understand it. Jeb will legalize 'em, let 'em stay in the U.S. and work, but allowing them to become full citizens with voting rights goes too far in rewarding them for breaking our laws. The most an illegal can aspire to be is a permanent legal resident. Beyond that lies amnesty.
3. Amnesty is legalization unless you've improved security first. That's Ted Cruz's position (and Marco Rubio's current position), again as I understand it. This isn't so much a literal definition of "amnesty," which is a matter of legal status, as it is a political compromise between the two prongs of comprehensive immigration reform. Legalization (i.e. work permits) is on the table if and only if we see concrete improvements in internal enforcement first. Border hawks got suckered in 1986 by accepting promises of future border security in return for immediate grants of amnesty; despite the Gang of Eight's best efforts, they won't get suckered again.
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Sorry it took me so long to respond. I’ve been out all afternoon and can’t post from my phone.
It is in the article of this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3366664/posts
Easier? How about impossible to stop.
Yes sir or mam,
You are stating you will not vote for Cruz, even if Cruz is the nominee?
It’s Donald Trump or the highway.....if not trump....you will abstain?
Might there be a chance that you will vote for the RAT, if Cruz does indeed gets the nomination? Would you welcome a Hillary & Bill Clinton co-presidency? Or would you smoke crack and vote fir Bernie Sanders — as would the fellow FRr?
I apologize. Cruz has a solid plan for securing the border.
The problem I have is him saying we will have a conversation about what to do with those left here after the election.
That was the first bill passed only in the Senate. Cruz voted no on the final version.
I read through Cruz’s immigration plan. I know he is for securing the border. I do see there he plans to end the “catch and Release” policy which is good. He also stated he would increase detention space to hold Illegals who are detained until they can be deported.
However, I did not see any plan to deport folks who are already here illegally and those illegals who are presently in our prisons.
No problem, thanks!
Once again slick, this thread/article is not about me or who I support or don’t. I’m not running for office.
Get it?
Ugh. You can’t read. “Deport” is in Cruz’s plan MANY times. Whatever. Continue in ignorance. Trump is God.
No kidding! He’s been pretending to be an outsider-then says ‘trust me’! like all the others.
No thanks!
I’m grateful we have Trump- otherwise this would be the best we have. Lesser of evils yet again.
we can talk now. why wait unless it’s because the liberal, Club for Growth position is taken? If there’s nothing to hide, why hide?
No, no Cruz first for me because of amnesty. I’ve escaped Mexifornia and this is issue #1 for me.
I am big enough to admit when I make a mistake: please accept my apology (sincerely).
I didn’t know your motives.
This debate, as I am sure you will agree ~SHOULD~ center on issues not on personal attacks.
-JS
An article is not a personal attack but many posts toward me are. I’m big enough to accwpt the insults but it will not stop me from presenting serious policy issues with every candidate in this crucial race. Sorry if you can’t handle the truth. Maybe it’s best not to click on my articles. Look at the message not messenger.
Oh really?
How many articles critical of Trump have you posted?
I'm guessing none.
It's nice that you have a favorite but don't pretend to be some great neutral disseminator of facts.
Maybe it's best not to click on my articles.
They ain't your articles, sweetiecakes.
What? Cruz is hard on amnesty. He’s been opposed to it, and remains opposed to it. How in the world have you come to the conclusion that Ted Cruz is pro-amnesty, when he’d completely opposed to it?
Ted Cruz defines the term at the 50-second mark:
If you’re impatient, I’ll type out the first few words of his definition: “I consider Amnesty to be the forgiving the lawbreaking of those who come here illegally ...”
Proverbs 23:9
“Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, for he will despise the good sense of your words.”
Proverbs 23:27
“For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.”
You are doing a great job of bringing issues to the table. Well done!
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