Posted on 11/05/2015 10:32:33 AM PST by jimbo123
Yesterday, November 4, marked 93 years to the day that the tomb of King Tutankhamen was opened in Egypt, revealing spectacular artifacts and a magnificent mummy of the boy king. The celebration was somewhat marred, at least here in the U.S., by a leading Republican candidate for president, former neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who confirmed a statement he'd made in 1998 - that he believes the Egyptian pyramids were grain silos, not tombs.
The collective reaction from archaeologists and historians, who have command of literally centuries' worth of research into the artifacts and literature of the ancient Egyptians, is... Wait, what now?
Carson said in his 1998 talk at Andrews University, a Seventh-Day Adventist-affiliated university, "And when you look at the way that the pyramids were made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they'd have to be that way for various reasons. And various of scientists [sic] have said, 'Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that's how, you know, it doesn't require an alien being when God is with you.'"
Just to be clear, no scientists think that aliens built the pyramids. There is a small but vocal contingent of people who believe in pseudoarchaeological explanations, but archaeologists have dismantled those harebrained theories at every possible turn. (See, for example, my piece, "What Archaeologists Really Think about Ancient Aliens, Lost Colonies, and Fingerprints of the Gods.") So while it may look good for Carson to deny alien involvement in pyramid building, he also attributes them to a white guy rather than, well, the ancient Egyptians.
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Here’s why the pyramid thing is important:
What other crazy nonsense does this guy believe that we haven’t discovered yet?
What other crazy nonsense does this guy believe that will be “discovered” on October 1, 2016?
Candidates can and will say anything to get elected. I don’t care so much what a candidate’s “policies” are as much as I care about how the candidate reached his or her conclusions.
Worldview matters, and being able to take a mixture of facts and morals and combine them into a cohesive platform is something not every candidate can do.
If Carson’s “facts” aren’t based on documented non-bible history and scientific consensus, that’s huge.
Well, they would be fools, because that isn’t something that you can confirm with objective evidence, it’s a matter of faith. This stuff about the pyramids is not, it’s just objectively wrong.
Everything we know about it suggests the pyramid grain storage theory to be dubious. Yet, if someone has some theories about how frank miracles operated in ancient times, that isn’t scientifically testable. If you want to go bonkers over this, how about Cruz’s beliefs about the manner of creation (probably YEC).
aw shucks, i thought everyone knew that it was trump who built the pyramids ... and got the egyptians to pay for it
Recent optical thermolumensce (when 2 pieces of stone were last joined) tests seem to show that they may be far older than standard theory posits (by hundreds of years). All dating of the Old Kingdom is based on two Kings Lists - the most commonly used is a known forgery, and the other seems to be something of a copy of the first.
But one thing is sure - none - that is none of the pyramids were used to store anything, let alone grain. The Egyptians had huge storehouses for that purpose; going to the trouble and expense of building a pyramid - of all things - to store grain is ridiculous. For the same time, trouble, and expense of building a structure with extremely limited internal space when you could otherwise build many storehouses is just plain out there with the aliens.
The Step Pyramid of Djoser could be younger that the Giza pyramids, not the other way around. The Giza pyramids were likely build by the Westerners who ruled that area until the war-liking southerners conquered them a thousand of year later.
The others failed to campaign in those other seven states; and, those votes turned out to be critical. It is also noteworthy that there are more dead people in those seven states than for the basic fifty.
I understand that the Christian worldview ill be attacked. I think it was Ted Cruz who was recently asked if he believed in Adam and Eve. He ignored the obvious effort to argue theology in a political campaign and said that our founding document spoke of our unalienable rights coming from the Creator. The talking heads shut up.
That should be the answer to anyone who asks a candidate to get in the theological weeds.
My sense of time is David at about 1000 BC, Joshua 400 years before at about 1400, so Moses at 1500. That would place Joseph and the famine at around 2000 BC or so. Does that seem right to you?
Please point me to the ones that describe when/how the Pyramids were built.
Which was the context of my comment.
Interesting side note for the Afro-centrists who claim that the ancient Egyptians were black (like the Bantu-speakers of today)--St. Paul is mistaken for an Egyptian by the Roman commander (chiliarch) (Acts 21.37).
Hillary Clinton Cracks Up at Ben Carson’s Pyramid Comments on Kimmel
The MSM will continue to mock him until she wins the election.
‘The tunnels beneath the pyramid form a labyrinth about 3.5 miles (5.5 kilometers) long.’
“The perfect location to store 7 years worth of grain.”
Joseph collected so much grain, a few miles of narrow, difficultly accessed underground tunnels wouldn’t have held a fraction of it.
Well the Famine Stela mentions the invention of pyramid building by Pharoah Zhoser and high priest Imhotep, and refers to the pyramids as tombs/temples for the king. Then there are the Pyramid Texts, which were inscribed on pyramids and detail the funerary rites and spells for the deceased Pharaohs. The Famine Stela is probably a Ptolemaic copy of an older text, but the Pyramid Texts date back to 2000-2500 BC. There is also the more recent discovery of the tombs of the pyramid builders at Giza, which contained hieroglyphics about the work gangs that built the pyramids.
“I believe Pharaoh Zhoser’s references were to step pyramids, not the three great Giza Pyramids.”
Yes, but I don’t think Carson limited his remarks to the ones at Giza either, he was just talking about pyramids in general.
The theories you talk about which equate Imhotep and Joseph are probably based on the Famine Stela, because that mentions a seven year famine in the reign of Zhoser, just like the seven year famine during the pharoah’s reign when Joseph was in Egypt.
Thanks for providing the source for the allegation by Carson on the pyramids.
That allegation is not going to go down nearly as badly as the doctrine of pacifism in SDA religion, which, in my view, disqualifies him as a potential Commander-in-Chief unless he can say he is NOT a pacifist regardless of what his church doctrine is.
I don’t expect him to do that.
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Wrote down why they were built and not how?
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