Posted on 10/08/2015 3:22:19 PM PDT by Torcert
Proviso – for those who know the answer right off the bat this is entirely obvious. But there are new people to the fight for our God-given and Constitutionally affirmed Civil-Rights just entering the fray and so this is for them.
So why does the #nationalSocialistLeft obsess over this issue. It wouldn’t of helped in many recent shootings so it’s a pointless exercise if it is supposed to ‘solve’ this problem. So why do the gun gabbers keep circling back to carp on this talking point ad nauseam?
It’s simple to understand if one just works backward from the gun gabber’s ultimate goal – CONFISCATION.
Side note: please don’t bore the rest of us with the tired talking point that ‘no one’s talking CONFISCATION’. His majesty Obama has already praised Australia’s CONFISCATION ‘solution’ so that ship has sailed.
Registration is One step backwards from CONFISCATION, and one cannot have Registration without Intergalactic Background Checks QED.
Parenthetically - CONFISCATION cannot take place without a list of names and one cannot have a proper list of names without the government in total control over this particular type of private property.
We know this is the ‘Fatal sequence’ (in more ways than one) that has taken place with other repressive regimes that have deprived the people of their Civil-Rights. In most cases the Registration step is accompanied by earnest promises that Registration won’t lead to confiscation.
And of course, we know from bitter history that this is a BOLD faced LIE.
And we know that there is no way to enforce Intergalactic Background Checks without Registration.
That would be the next two or three steps if they ever get IBC’s. Knowing that these won’t stop any future shootings (that’s a feature, not bug for the gun grabbers) the clarion call after a shooting will be registration.
Many will argue that Registration IS CONFISCATION since yielding control over our God-given and Constitutionally affirmed Civil-Rights effectively renders them moot and I would tend to whole heartily agree. Thus the reason that Intergalactic Background Checks are so dangerous to the cause of Liberty, and the reason we need to fight them tooth and nail.
If no one is allowed to transfer a gun, data from the Intergalactic Background Checks will tell them exactly who is armed and what they have. And it can expected that after still another shooting (Do you see the pattern here?) the call will be for people to be required to register their guns.
For once the Government become the gatekeeper in obtaining a firearm it will be a matter of time before the process is ‘throttled back’ to those the #nationalSocialistLeft deem worthy to have their God-given and Constitutionally affirmed Civil-Rights.
So they’ll have a roadmap for confiscation.
Hmmm. Well, the way the signature gatherers here in NV sold it to the LPOS/SPOS/IPOS/UPOS for a 2016 ballot initiative was the promise to end ALL gun violence and ALL domestic violence once and for all. And twice the required signatures were obtained. Stupidity has no limits.
That would be a real test of the motives of the anti-gun people. Require that the records be destroyed once the applicant passes the check. If they insist on keeping the records, then the motive is eventual confiscation plain and simple.
Yes this is obvious, but why do they get away with the requirement for an SN# for every 4473? I thought the background check was on the buyer, not the gun. Trust me, this info isn’t trashed as they claim. The FFL must keep these records for 20 years.
Exactly - who has the guns and where they live.
Had a misdemeanor? Denied. Been fired? Denied. Ever get in an argument at work? Denied. And so on
From that, it is a very simple matter to make it unlawful for a "Denied" person to possess a firearm at all.
Simple, isn't it?
They just want more gun laws. Heaven forbid any should work. They don’t enforce the laws they have. The whole point is to pass laws tat DON’T work so they can continue to complain we “need more gun laws”.
2016 ballot initiative was the promise to end ALL gun violence and ALL domestic violence once and for all.
That's not surprising at all - each one of their incremental hacks at our Civil rights is invariability sold that way.
As they will try with the next incremental step..
Good point - And I think everyone knows what the answer to that will be.
‘They won’t be able to ‘enforce’ #IBC’s without registration..’
That will be their excuse
Exactly.
They’ve already suggested that the NRA be designated a ‘terrorist’ organization... as opposed to #BlackLiesMatter..Bu I digress..
By extension, that would make every member a ‘terrorist’.. or any who is in favour of the 2nd amendment...
So, just hook up the NICS system to the [Due process-free] ‘terror watch list’ and Voila!
Gun owners are stopped from being so.. QED
Yep. The reason for universal background checks is so they can build a database of owners and guns. But I don’t see them as to try outright confiscation because that would immediately lead to a bloody civil war with a lot of gun grabbers dead. Instead after UBC they will institute a mandatory registration of all your guns. Then there will be random compliance checks (without a search warrant, of course) and if what you own doesn’t match the database, your guns will be immediately confiscated and destroyed and you will be jailed.
Next they will make the transfer of firearms from anyone to anyone else for any reason illegal. When you die the government comes and collects all your firearms and destroys them.
They are supposed to destroy the records. I think Clinton/Reno were stretching it out a bit but stopped when it was discovered.
But as The 2nd Amendment Foundation pointed out, there is no penalty for not complying with the destruction of records rule.
They may already have their list.
Lemmie see now..............
I own guns.
How hard do ya think it would be to find a shrink to say that for that AND NOW OTHER REASON AT ALL—I’m a bit crazy (to say the least) and SHOULD NOT have any guns??
Wanna bet??
Let’s get this civil war started. I want it over by the time my grandchildren know what’s what.
Destroying paper records is a meaningless act, designed to gain your trust in government.
Destroying digital records; also a meaningless act designed to gain your trust in government.
All paper records of purchase are immediately turned into digital records; unless they are 35 to 40 years old, then it just takes a little more time.
All digital records have multiple backups, whether you know about them or not.
Just ask the HILDABEAST; YOU WILL GO TO JAIL, Her NOT SO MUCH.
Could someone please tell me what the current background check process is or should be.
I have bought from LGS on Black Friday when the place was packed. How do they do it during high volume days?
Just another small step in the call for gun registration and confiscation.
This has been the liberal’s wet dream since 1962 when Thomas J Dodd and Emanuel Cellar called for the registration of ONLY HANDGUNS! Rifles and shotguns would not be affected.
Then two years later they called for the registration of ALL guns,
then a ban on small “Saturday Night Specials”,
then a ban on all handguns,
then a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns. And so on it goes.
Here is what the founder of Handgun Control Inc said years ago.
Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.
“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.
Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.
So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.
My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”
-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58
“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”
-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview
HCI, around 1984, came out in favor of a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns.
A little step here, a nibble there. A bite here and a bite there. soon all guns will be gone UNLESS YOU OPPOSE THEM EVERY CHANCE YOU GET!
If they get their “background check loophole” law they will go on to propose even more, and worse gun restrictions.
You need to learn the difference between civil rights and natural rights else you're leading others astray with your ignorance! I suggest starting here...
RIGHTS OF MAN Thomas Paine
("edit"..."find"..."hitherto" to get right to it)
You're demoting a natural right to a lesser civil right. Or did you simply not realize what you were doing?
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