Posted on 09/23/2015 9:19:44 AM PDT by xzins
Rising Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina waded into the controversy over whether or not a Muslim can honestly preserve, protect and defend the Constitution by attacking Dr. Ben Carson for his comments that, "I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that."
Dr. Carson also said that Islam, as a religion, is incompatible with the Constitution – a position we held long before Dr. Carson made the remarks that brought the political correctness police out and after him in full force.
Appearing on NBC's "The Tonight Show," with Jimmy Fallon, Republican presidential contender Carly Fiorina said Carson's position is "wrong."
“I think that’s wrong,” Fiorina told Fallon during Monday’s show. “You know, it says in our Constitution that religion cannot be a test for office. It is also true that this country was founded on the principle that we judge each individual and that anyone, of any faith, is welcome here."
This was pretty much the same thing that Hillary Clinton tweeted when the reports of Dr. Carson’s comments first surfaced: “Can a Muslim be President of the United States of America? In a word: Yes. Now let's move on. – H”
Fiorina, according to media reports, went on to say that people of faith, regardless of their particular religion, "make better leaders" and spoke of how her own Christian faith sustained her during some of the most challenging moments of her life.
Carly Fiorina concluded the part of her interview with Jimmy Fallon where she criticized Dr. Carson’s warning about Islam by saying, “But whether it’s a person of Christian faith or Jewish faith or Muslim faith, or other faiths, I think faith gives us humility and empathy and optimism and I think those are important things.”
Hummm, people of “faith,” regardless of their particular religion “make better leaders” and there’s moral equivalence between all “faiths”?
The notion that all religions are equal in informing the moral direction of their adherents strikes us as being strangely flippant, as well as ignorant, as one presumes Ms. Fiorina was not saying that there is moral equivalence between say Aztec practices of human sacrifice and the Buddhist pacifism of the Dalai Lama.
But we’re sure that Motecuhzoma Ilhuicamina was a great “leader” of the Aztec civilization, founded as it was on conquest, slavery and beheading human sacrificial victims.
Both Fiorina and Clinton missed – intentionally or otherwise – the point Carson was making, which was not CAN a Muslim be President, but SHOULD a Muslim be President?
And this is not a new kind of question for Americans to ask.
During the middle of the 20th century, Communism, another bloodthirsty political movement striving for world domination had its political adherents in the United States – just as Islam has its adherents today.
There were plenty of Americans who thought that the Communist Party should be outlawed because its adherents advocated the violent overthrow of American constitutional government.
And Congress actually passed “Communist Control Act of 1954,” because it found that the American Communist Party was “an instrumentality of a conspiracy to overthrow the Government of the United States. It constitutes an authoritarian dictatorship within a republic, demanding for itself the rights and privileges accorded to political parties, but denying to all others the liberties guaranteed by the Constitution.”
Other findings of fact in the law were:
***“Unlike political parties, the Communist Party acknowledges no constitutional or statutory limitations upon its conduct or upon that of its members. The Communist Party is relatively small numerically, and gives scant indication of capacity ever to attain its ends by lawful political means. The peril inherent in its operation arises not from its numbers, but from its failure to acknowledge any limitation as to the nature of its activities, and its dedication to the proposition that the present constitutional Government of the United States ultimately must be brought to ruin by any available means, including resort to force and violence. Holding that doctrine, its role as the agency of a hostile foreign power renders its existence a clear present and continuing danger to the security of the United States. It is the means whereby individuals are seduced into the service of the world Communist movement, trained to do its bidding, and directed and controlled in the conspiratorial performance of their revolutionary services. Therefore, the Communist Party should be outlawed.”***
The Communist Control Act, by the way, won unanimous approval in the Senate, winning full support from both Democrats and Republicans.
Fast forward to 2015 and substitute “Islam” for “Communism” and you would have a pretty accurate description of the Islamist political goals of the Muslim Brotherhood and their various front groups in the United States.
Now here’s the really interesting part – the Communist Party USA still exists, and apart from a few minor cases the law was never used. No administration ever enforced it.
Although it is still on the books, because it has never been repealed, its potential constitutional flaws were never tested. Instead, the government concentrated on finding and prosecuting individuals, such as Alger Hiss, who actually acted on the Communist imperative and engaged in overt acts that imperiled the government of the United States.
One of the main reasons the “Communist Control Act of 1954,” was never used is because world Communism was combatted by other means – notably education – which alerted Americans to the danger to constitutional liberty posed by Communism and ultimately made the likelihood of the overthrow of constitutional government through a Communist takeover of the United States unlikely.
Contrast the vast cultural and political effort undertaken to educate Americans about the danger to constitutional liberty posed by world Communism with the “I’m OK, you’re OK” moral relativism espoused about Islam by Carly Fiorina and Hillary Clinton.
When you make that contrast you have to conclude that if their attitude had held sway in America sixty-five years ago today we’d all be speaking Russian and referring to each other as “comrade” instead of “dude.”
Having travelled extensively in the Islamic world, and having lived and worked in a majority Muslim country, I invite Ms. Fiorina to read the Koran and to separate the verses or Suras advocating “empathy and optimism,” especially toward non-Muslims, from the Suras advocating killing apostates (Sura 4:89); cutting of the hands of thieves (Sura 5:38); punishing women who have been raped (Sura 24:2); allowing the beating of women (Sura 4:34); and, institutionalizing anti-Semitism (Sura 5:60, 7:166, 2:65) to name but a few of the not so empathetic and optimistic tenets of Islam.
Clearly Ms. Fiorina knows little about the practical application of Islam in the daily lives of its adherents – or its potential impact on the lives of those non-Muslims in areas where Sharia holds sway. Otherwise she would not grant Islam moral equivalence with the Judeo-Christian faith that informed the foundation of the United States, and in contrast to Islam, gives our system of constitutional liberties its moral framework.
All religions are equal at instilling 'humility'?
That's just inclusive pablum, and if she doesn't know it, then she's dangerous.
The more I hear from her and research her, the more I despise her.
Not as much as I despise jeb! mind you but she is getting close.
[That’s just inclusive pablum, and if she doesn’t know it, then she’s dangerous.]
“inclusive pablum”
Served up for Fallon’s liberal viewers.
She will fade quickly IMHO.
So she thinks Islam and Christianity are the same morally?
She’s a real dope.
I can see why the GOPE likes her.
The only people peeved at Ben Carson's remark about A Muslim
president are the media and the p c crowd His voters like it— Charlie
Daniels (@CharlieDaniels) September 23, 2015
http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/08/what-did-carly-fiorina-really-say-about-islam-after-9-11/
Carly should run as a Democrat.
HUGE MISTAKE.
Carly has been near perfect in her interviews and in the debates.
Count me as surprised, so far she had been saying the right things at the right time. For her, this is as poorly timed as could be.
Her campaign to be the anti establishment may start going down hill now. Trump (and Carson) will likely gain at her expense.
Look into her past and association with the BPP, not to mention Agenda 21 and other various isidious ideas.
http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=1854
Of course everything is open for investigation but you’ll never hear or see any of this addressed by the moderators or anyone in the msm.
How non PC of Dr. Carson to express his true beliefs, his principles and how refreshing that he describes facts in evidence.
Other candidates need to listen up and do some factual checking before making stupid comments - IOW SHUT UP!!!!.
Blech! please pull Secretariate off the stage. She’s in the wrong political party.
iCarly committing political suicide as I predicted : )
The old saying of giving a person enough rope appears to be a valid happening with Fiorina. An examination of her past work and political aspirations shows she is an opportunist of the first degree. I kind of liked that she was using Hillary as the latest career jump start.
That is an awesome graphic. In one picture we have an entire essay on the incompatibility of the US Constitution and Islam. Thanks.
Great, I volunteer you for the next Mayan sacrifice ritual since you welcome ALL religions!
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