Posted on 08/31/2015 11:22:54 AM PDT by rdl6989
Fragments of an early Koran found in a Birmingham library may rewrite Islamic history after carbon dating revealed they could be older than Mohammed.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
There’s nothing surprising about this. Islam is a syncretic religion, a fabricated synthesis of the different religions circulating in the ME at the time: Judaism, Christianity and paganism (hence the moon worship). Basically, Mohammed realized that military conquest of the surrounding peoples was not enough, and this new “religion” was thought up as a way of supplanting their old pre-Islamic conquest cultures and making them totally subject to him.
Mohammed took certain aspects of ritual law from the Jews, certain figures (such as Mary) from the Christians, and lots and lots of things (including the meteorite in the black cube at Mecca) from the pagan religions. It’s very possible that he also came across some kind of text fragments, probably of gnostic origin, that he also incorporated into it or perhaps that even gave him the idea.
I was unaware of the pig part.
Atheistic researchers have been attempting to do this with Christianity for decades. Every two years or so a new “gospel” is discovered which throws t h e whole Christian belief into chaos. Big early headlines give way after six or so months to a tiny “never mind” on page 54 under the used car classifieds.
Mo’s Minions will not be pleased.
Probably have to destroy it as it’s “unislamic”.
You forgot plagiarist!
Our troops over in the sandbox report his present-day followers doing unspeakable things to goats. And boys. And each other.
Maybe I should have left out the pigs; that’s pure speculation.
This just suggests it was written down during his lifetime. I think they have always assumed it was compiled after his death.
I predict Birmingham library will burn down in 3, 2, ...
However disreputable, he was very good at what he did.
Like Lenin.
So, it would appear that we can add plagiarizer to the mad paedophiles list of crimes?
The Carbon Dating is for the parchment, not the ink. Also, the article says calligraphy is of a “later style.”
It could be old (at the time!) or re-used parchment. Parchment was expensive and it was a common practice to scrape parchment and re-use it.
Sure, and the Mormons will find those Golden Plates....
Muhammed was a fraud!!!
well, duh
I thought it was common knowledge in religious circles that the Caliph Utman ordered all early korans turned in under pain of death, had the whole thing rewritten to HIS liking and distributed to the Imans.
“Dr. Keith Small, a Koranic manuscript consultant at Oxfords Bodleian Library, admits the carbon dating applies to the parchment, not the ink, while the calligraphy is characteristic of a later style.”
Parchment was often scraped and reused.
Yes, Mohammed was clearly good at what he did...attacking basically undefended peoples and subduing them with extreme violence. His tribe was nomadic and had lived at least in part through raiding camel trains bringing merchandise into that part of the world. This was some time after the collapse of the Roman Empire, so what little stability and protection had been granted to the many kingdoms and peoples in that area was long gone and they were just ripe for the taking.
He took the basic Arab business and war model and notched it up to a world-domination model. And most of the time, his attacks were successful.
Correct.
It is a mix of a bunch of religions. How it is expressed often depends on the audience. My wife is friends with a woman from Algeria, who honestly things Muslims and Catholics are the same except for bacon and wine.
Your use of pigs was not speculative. It was deliberately slanderous.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
You would have been better using sheep as a target species.
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