Posted on 08/27/2015 6:00:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said in the wake of Wednesday mornings shooting deaths on live TV of a reporter and videographer in Virginia that it isnt a gun problem but a mental problem.
Asked Thursday on CNNs New Day if he would do something different about gun policy, Mr. Trump said: Well, I dont think I would, because this is really a sick person. This isnt a gun problem; this is a mental problem.
Frankly, you know, a case like this, he snuck up on em. Whether it was a gun or a knife or whatever it would have been, it would have been something, Mr. Trump said. But you know, youre not going to get rid of all guns, so I know one thing: if you tried to do it, the bad guys would have em, to use an expression, and the good folks would abide by the law. Theyd be hopeless and.
it would be a hopeless situation for them, and I think its a big mistake.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Same as the Charleston shooting.
Its a spiritual problem. This is what the country wants. It has rejected God.
AMEN. This is Mr. Trump an issue with the spiritual, between Heaven and Hell and right and wrong.
Love this guy!
Ping
The reason that LIBs closed most mental institutions in the 60’s & 70’s was that they feared being placed in them. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Most gun-wielding murderers are LIBs.
They stoked his anger by accomodating and appeasing his anger.
Hed have stopped if instead theyd have beaten him up and shouted him down.
Go one further, Mr. Trump. This is a Democrat problem.
This is an Obama problem. They caused it through seven years of stalking racial division and tension.
Schizophrenia is a "mental problem"...meaning a biological disease of the brain.Yesterday's events were the result of basic amorality...a character disorder.
Thank you Donald. No pandering.
more common sense out of the Donald...
He wasn’t mentally ill. He was evil. He had a reason for killing them(revenge), even if it was completely wrong and self-deluded.
The Virginia Tech, movie theater and Newtown shooters didn’t really have a reason. They were mentally ill.
The guy was a homosexual. Homosexuality is a mental illness.
In 1973, The American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from the APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-II), not because of scientific evidence, but because of a campaign of intimidation by homosexual activists.
This decision was a significant victory for homosexual activists and they have continued to claim that the APA based their decision on new scientific discoveries that proved that homosexual behavior is normal and should be affirmed in our culture.
This is false and part of numerous homosexual urban legends that have infiltrated every aspect of our culture. The removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder has given homosexual activists credibility in the culture, and they have demanded that their sexual behavior be affirmed in society.
What Really Happened?
Numerous psychiatrists over the past decades have described what forces were really at work both inside and outside of the American Psychiatric Association-—and what led to the removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder.
Dr. Ronald Bayer, a pro-homosexual psychiatrist has described what actually occured in his book, Homosexuality and American Psychiatry: The Politics of Diagnoses. (1981)
In Chapter 4, “Diagnostic Politics: Homosexuality and the American Psychiatric Association,” Dr. Bayer says that the first attack by homosexual activists against the APA began in 1970 when this organization held its convention in San Francisco. Homosexual activists decided to disrupt the conference by interrupting speakers and shouting down and ridiculing psychiatrists who viewed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In 1971, homosexual activist Frank Kameny worked with the Gay Liberation Front collective to demonstrate against the APA’s convention. At the 1971 conference, Kamney grabbed the microphone and yelled, “Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a decleration of war against you.”
Homosexuals forged APA credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.
Kamney had found an ally inside of the APA named Kent Robinson who helped the homosexual activist present his demand that homosexualiy be removed from the DSM. At the 1972 convntion, homosexual activists were permitted to set up a display booth, entitled “Gay, Proud, and Healthy.”
Kameny was then permitted to be part of a panel of psychiatrists who were to discuss homosexuality. The effort to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM was the result of power politics, threats, and intimidation, not scientific discoveries.
Prior to the APA’s 1973 convention, several psychiatrists attempted to organize opposition to the efforts of homosexuals to remove homosexual behavior from the DSM. Organizing this effort were Drs. Irving Bieber and Charles Socarides who formed the Ad Hoc Committee Against the Deletion of Homosexuality from the Dsm-II.
The DSM-II listed homosexuality as an abnormal behavior under section “302. Sexual Deviations.” It was the first deviation listed.
After much political pressure, a committee of the APA met behind closed doors in 1973 and voted to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM-II. Opponents were given 15 minutes to protest this change, according to Dr. Jeffery Satinover, in Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth. Satinover writes that after this vote was taken, the decision was to be voted on by the entire APA membership. The National Gay Task Force purchased the APA’s mailing list and sent out a letter to the APA members urging them to vote to remove homosexuality as a disorder. No APA member was informed that the mailing had been funded by this homosexual activist group.
According to Satinover, “How much the 1973 APA decision was motivated by politics is only becoming clear even now. While attending a conference in England in 1994, I met a man who told me an account that he had told no one else. He had been in the gay life for for years but had left the lifestyle. He recounted how that after the 1973 APA decisiion, he and his lover, along with a certain very highly placed officer of the APA Board of Trustees and his lover, all sat around the officer’s apartment celebrating their victory. For among the gay activists placed high in the APA who maneuvered to ensure a victory was this man—suborning from the top what was presented to both the membership and the public as a disinterested search for truth.”
Well he told the truth. Even if you remove guns , the mental leftist types are still going to terrorizenwhether it be with a baseball bat, a knife or even throwing acid in your face. People will always be able to get guns if they want them bad enough, especially criminals.
Trump is wrong on this one, what you say is closed to the truth.
There are two distinct type of mass shootings that we’ve recently seen. One is the Adam Lanza type where there truly is mental illness involved and the shooter is on or coming down from being on psychotropic drugs.
There’s another type where someone is provoked and incited into armed revenge based on a reinforced perception of being oppressed.
THATS what happened here. This Bryce/Vested guy wasn’t really “mentally ill” but rather had been nurtured with a steady diet of hateful propaganda that fed his growing rage to the point where he popped.
I’ve been amused in the last 24 hours at seeing how the Liberal Press and Progressives in general have been contorting themselves into pretzels avoiding that particular elephant in the room to blame it all on a gun. When not too long ago they blamed a very similar mass shooting on cultural social factors (white supremecy, revolt against “white privilege”) and symbolism (the Confederate flag).
Trump should really recognize and call this shooting out for what it actuall is.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.