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Donald Trump on WDBJ-TV shootings: ‘This isn’t a gun problem; this is a mental problem’
The Washington Times ^ | 08/27/2015 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 08/27/2015 6:00:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said in the wake of Wednesday morning’s shooting deaths on live TV of a reporter and videographer in Virginia that it isn’t a gun problem but a “mental problem.”

Asked Thursday on CNN’s “New Day” if he would do something different about gun policy, Mr. Trump said: “Well, I don’t think I would, because this is really a sick person. This isn’t a gun problem; this is a mental problem.”

“Frankly, you know, a case like this, he snuck up on ‘em. Whether it was a gun or a knife or whatever it would have been, it would have been something,” Mr. Trump said. “But you know, you’re not going to get rid of all guns, so I know one thing: if you tried to do it, the bad guys would have ‘em, to use an expression, and the good folks would abide by the law. They’d be hopeless and. … it would be a hopeless situation for them, and I think it’s a big mistake.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; afroturf; astroturf; banglist; blackkk; blackliesmatter; blacklivesmatter; election2016; mentalillness; newyork; redistribution; reparations; secondamendment; trump; vesterflanagan; vesterleeflanagan; virginia; wdbj; whiteprivilege
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1 posted on 08/27/2015 6:00:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Same as the Charleston shooting.


2 posted on 08/27/2015 6:01:36 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Its a spiritual problem. This is what the country wants. It has rejected God.


3 posted on 08/27/2015 6:01:47 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: WKUHilltopper

AMEN. This is Mr. Trump an issue with the spiritual, between Heaven and Hell and right and wrong.


4 posted on 08/27/2015 6:02:39 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Love this guy!


5 posted on 08/27/2015 6:02:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Cruz is still my #1, but Trump is impressing the hell out of me.)
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To: Octar

Ping


6 posted on 08/27/2015 6:03:01 AM PDT by ASA Vet (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The reason that LIBs closed most mental institutions in the 60’s & 70’s was that they feared being placed in them. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Most gun-wielding murderers are LIBs.


7 posted on 08/27/2015 6:03:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They stoked his anger by accomodating and appeasing his anger.

Hed have stopped if instead theyd have beaten him up and shouted him down.


8 posted on 08/27/2015 6:03:10 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Go one further, Mr. Trump. This is a Democrat problem.
This is an Obama problem. They caused it through seven years of stalking racial division and tension.


9 posted on 08/27/2015 6:03:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Funny...and there I was thinking it was a character problem.

Schizophrenia is a "mental problem"...meaning a biological disease of the brain.Yesterday's events were the result of basic amorality...a character disorder.

10 posted on 08/27/2015 6:04:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thank you Donald. No pandering.


11 posted on 08/27/2015 6:05:11 AM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

more common sense out of the Donald...


12 posted on 08/27/2015 6:05:35 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He wasn’t mentally ill. He was evil. He had a reason for killing them(revenge), even if it was completely wrong and self-deluded.

The Virginia Tech, movie theater and Newtown shooters didn’t really have a reason. They were mentally ill.


13 posted on 08/27/2015 6:06:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: WKUHilltopper
This is what the country wants. It has rejected God.


14 posted on 08/27/2015 6:06:41 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The guy was a homosexual. Homosexuality is a mental illness.

In 1973, The American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from the APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-II), not because of scientific evidence, but because of a campaign of intimidation by homosexual activists.

This decision was a significant victory for homosexual activists and they have continued to claim that the APA based their decision on new scientific discoveries that proved that homosexual behavior is normal and should be affirmed in our culture.

This is false and part of numerous homosexual urban legends that have infiltrated every aspect of our culture. The removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder has given homosexual activists credibility in the culture, and they have demanded that their sexual behavior be affirmed in society.

What Really Happened?

Numerous psychiatrists over the past decades have described what forces were really at work both inside and outside of the American Psychiatric Association-—and what led to the removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder.

Dr. Ronald Bayer, a pro-homosexual psychiatrist has described what actually occured in his book, Homosexuality and American Psychiatry: The Politics of Diagnoses. (1981)

In Chapter 4, “Diagnostic Politics: Homosexuality and the American Psychiatric Association,” Dr. Bayer says that the first attack by homosexual activists against the APA began in 1970 when this organization held its convention in San Francisco. Homosexual activists decided to disrupt the conference by interrupting speakers and shouting down and ridiculing psychiatrists who viewed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In 1971, homosexual activist Frank Kameny worked with the Gay Liberation Front collective to demonstrate against the APA’s convention. At the 1971 conference, Kamney grabbed the microphone and yelled, “Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a decleration of war against you.”

Homosexuals forged APA credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.

Kamney had found an ally inside of the APA named Kent Robinson who helped the homosexual activist present his demand that homosexualiy be removed from the DSM. At the 1972 convntion, homosexual activists were permitted to set up a display booth, entitled “Gay, Proud, and Healthy.”

Kameny was then permitted to be part of a panel of psychiatrists who were to discuss homosexuality. The effort to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM was the result of power politics, threats, and intimidation, not scientific discoveries.

Prior to the APA’s 1973 convention, several psychiatrists attempted to organize opposition to the efforts of homosexuals to remove homosexual behavior from the DSM. Organizing this effort were Drs. Irving Bieber and Charles Socarides who formed the Ad Hoc Committee Against the Deletion of Homosexuality from the Dsm-II.

The DSM-II listed homosexuality as an abnormal behavior under section “302. Sexual Deviations.” It was the first deviation listed.

After much political pressure, a committee of the APA met behind closed doors in 1973 and voted to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM-II. Opponents were given 15 minutes to protest this change, according to Dr. Jeffery Satinover, in Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth. Satinover writes that after this vote was taken, the decision was to be voted on by the entire APA membership. The National Gay Task Force purchased the APA’s mailing list and sent out a letter to the APA members urging them to vote to remove homosexuality as a disorder. No APA member was informed that the mailing had been funded by this homosexual activist group.

According to Satinover, “How much the 1973 APA decision was motivated by politics is only becoming clear even now. While attending a conference in England in 1994, I met a man who told me an account that he had told no one else. He had been in the gay life for for years but had left the lifestyle. He recounted how that after the 1973 APA decisiion, he and his lover, along with a certain very highly placed officer of the APA Board of Trustees and his lover, all sat around the officer’s apartment celebrating their victory. For among the gay activists placed high in the APA who maneuvered to ensure a victory was this man—suborning from the top what was presented to both the membership and the public as a disinterested search for truth.”


15 posted on 08/27/2015 6:09:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (To defeat the democRATs, we must first defeat the Republicans.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well he told the truth. Even if you remove guns , the mental leftist types are still going to terrorizenwhether it be with a baseball bat, a knife or even throwing acid in your face. People will always be able to get guns if they want them bad enough, especially criminals.


16 posted on 08/27/2015 6:10:19 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Gay State Conservative; All

Dude really had issues.

NSFW
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3W_eyKgfcWA


17 posted on 08/27/2015 6:13:27 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Trump is wrong on this one, what you say is closed to the truth.

There are two distinct type of mass shootings that we’ve recently seen. One is the Adam Lanza type where there truly is mental illness involved and the shooter is on or coming down from being on psychotropic drugs.

There’s another type where someone is provoked and incited into armed revenge based on a reinforced perception of being oppressed.

THATS what happened here. This Bryce/Vested guy wasn’t really “mentally ill” but rather had been nurtured with a steady diet of hateful propaganda that fed his growing rage to the point where he popped.

I’ve been amused in the last 24 hours at seeing how the Liberal Press and Progressives in general have been contorting themselves into pretzels avoiding that particular elephant in the room to blame it all on a gun. When not too long ago they blamed a very similar mass shooting on cultural social factors (white supremecy, revolt against “white privilege”) and symbolism (the Confederate flag).

Trump should really recognize and call this shooting out for what it actuall is.


18 posted on 08/27/2015 6:14:07 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Trump is right on about this.
The Left always talks about guns being the problem after situations like this, but the real issue is that we need to take better care of the mentally ill (there are a lot of them) in this country.
When my dad was in medical school, one of his colleagues who was a psychiatrist said that something like 1 in 3 people are mentally ill.
The Left is scared that we'll go back to the days of institutionalizing people, but for some people that is what they need, because they either don't have a family / support network to help them stay on their meds, or their mental illness is too severe for family to manage.

19 posted on 08/27/2015 6:15:04 AM PDT by chud
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
On the local news in Pittsburgh,Pa. there is NO mention of this on the morning news. Black sodomite hates Whitey and goes on a killing spree just doesn't fit their agenda.
20 posted on 08/27/2015 6:15:27 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Studies show that some people say experts agree!)
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