Posted on 07/18/2015 5:19:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
Why all the fuss about body parts and/or fetal tissue Planned Parenthood is allegedly selling? They aren’t human. They are fetuses. The law states fetuses aren’t alive because they aren’t considered “viable;” meaning they can’t survive on their own apart from their incubator in most gestational stages.
Even after the fetus emerges from its incubator it is still not legally protected as a child or a person. Doesn’t anyone listen to Barack Obama?
Obama clarifies any confusion about this. On March 30, 2001 he argued before the Illinois General Assembly that if a doctor is required to “have to keep alive a pre-viable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as is necessary to try to keep that child alive, then we're probably crossing the line in terms of unconstitutionality.”
Understand? According to Obama it’s unconstitutional to try and keep alive a non, or pre-viable fetus. (The Hippocratic Oath doesn’t apply in this instance.)
Obama explains:
"Whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a - child, a nine-month-old - child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it - it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute."
In 2006 Obama also asserted abortion doesn’t violate any moral principle.
Planned Parenthood isn’t at fault for using suction curettage or vacuum aspiration procedures either. They’re perfectly legal and safe. Physicians, even non-physicians, have been using suction and curettage methods for years, beginning in the first trimester. Suctioning out the fetus doesn’t harm the incubator and the fetus doesn’t feel being ripped apart because it’s not a human being.
The cannula (a hollow plastic tube connected to a vacuum-type pump with a flexible hose) dislodges and sucks the fetus out of the uterus into the tube—either whole or in pieces.
Next, a curette is used to scrape out anything left inside. This is followed by one last round of vacuum suction to really make sure no pieces like a foot or head are left inside. After all of the contents are suctioned into a jar they are examined to determine if they adequately represent the correct amount of fetal parts and tissue correlated to gestational estimates.
Gays and transgender people can participate as well, in simulated procedures offered at gay abortion “spas”. They can pay to pretend to be human incubators who choose not to allow anything to grow in their non-uteruses and undergo a simulated procedure to remove nothing from their bodies. It’s unclear if Jeb Bush’s communication’s director Tim Miller or any of his other gay activist staff members have tried it. But according to national news reports, gays are raving about it.
Don’t be angry with Planned Parenthood. One of its founding treasurers who helped launch its first national fundraising campaign in 1947 was Prescott Bush, father of former President George H. Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush and former governor Jeb Bush. The Bush Dynastic legacy has long been involved with reproductive rights and family planning.
Prescott Bush was a prominent leader in the "Birth Control Society," which after various name changes became Planned Parenthood. His son, George H.W. Bush’s nickname in Congress was “Rubbers.”
It’s no secret that Prescott’s daughter-in-law Barbara has publicly supported pro-choice positions and contraception use, as does his grand daughter-in law Laura. Even former First Lady Barbara Bush kept her miscarried fetus in a jar.
George H.W. Bush was a staunch advocate of government regulation and involvement in “family planning.” In Congress in 1968 he asserted, “We need to make family planning a household word.” In 1991 he publicly addressed Congress referring to a “new world order,” which includes family planning on a global scale.
After all, he had learned from his father who supported advocacy campaigns designed to control family size as part of the war effort. (It was only until he was tapped as Reagan’s Vice President that as a job requirement he had to publically change his position and politically oppose abortion, contraception, and Planned Parenthood.)
To be fair, the Bushes aren’t alone. In 1946, more than 3,000 Jewish and Protestant clergymen publicly supported Planned Parenthood. In the 1950’s men primarily interested in population control ran Planned Parenthood (their efforts were a smaller version of those financed today by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation). Even Barry Goldwater was an active supporter, and his wife was a Planned Parenthood board member in Phoenix.
Body part, like stem cells, should at least be used for something. The U.S. government is funding far worse.
Like Iran, America’s sworn enemy.
And ISIS (the “Junior League, non-Islamic group” partially trained and funded by U.S. tax dollars and debt), which is using U.S. military weapons, ammunition, communications and transportation to commit widespread genocide against mostly Christians (in the name of Allah). Genocide is certainly one method of population control.
Where’s the outrage or political will to stop funding ISIS and Iran and protect Christian refugees?
ISIS isn’t selling body parts. Yet they’ve received far more resources from the U.S. than Planned Parenthood has.
ISIS is selling whole bodies. Living “viable” bodies.
Living “viable” bodies of mostly 9 year-old girls and younger.
Living girls are repeatedly sold in slave bazaars. For less than $200.
Where’s the outrage and political will to rescue the living?
I guess in a way one could argue this is true. I don't think there is a case where a 'fetus' upon recognizing it was about to be Hoovered out of existence attacked and killed an abortionist. /s
Indeed, why all the railing against free market business? Abortionists have a product and people want to pay for it. Haven't we learned anything from Ayn Rand?
Don't know that any religion thinks that way. It's just me.
One can only imagine what those poor kids in the womb go through as they’re destroyed.
And, one can only imagine how the ghouls in Planned Parenthood can justify that through their sophistry as they hide behind the Constitution.
IMHO
I tend to think of body-part reuse as a matter of choice, a donor-donee relationship formalized in some manner.
I don’t see the reuse of fetal parts or material as any part of that more conventional practice.
Further, there is no part of that traditional medical practice of organ transplants that starts out with the intentional murder and butchering of the donor to get that ‘part’ for the donee.
the coven of homicidal witches is being exposed for what it really is
It's just Luddite me. It's not a view I'd try to sway others to.
you have just contradicted your self with a significant error in logic.
the body parts being sold or given away are human
the body parts are sourced from a dead human
the source from planned parenthood results from homicide
QED
I don’t disagree with you. I am not a body part donor myself, and at my age I don’t think I’d want to go through the process it takes to become a part of being the recipient. I’d just let nature take its course.
I’m honestly not sure how I’d feel if I were 45 years younger, though.
Planned Parenthood = Murder Inc.
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What part of this did you not understand? How is "intentional murder and butchering" not "homicide" as you say? The distinction between PP butchering/murder and the conventional organ donor practice was made.
OBAMA BLESSES PLANNED PARENTHOOD (dismembering savagery ok'ed using Obama's reasoning)
Obama recently stated that the Abortion industry in America is blessed by God... “As long as we’ve got to fight to make sure women have access to quality, affordable health care, and as long as we’ve got to fight to protect a woman’s right to make her own choices about her own health, I want you to know that you’ve also got a president who’s going to be right there with you, fighting every step of the way,” said Obama. “Thank you, Planned Parenthood. God bless you.”
2004 BACKSTORY In February 2004, then-US Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law stopping doctors from performing p/b abortions (stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls).
Michelle Obama considers partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure," and asked supporters for $150 to attend a luncheon for her candidate husband, b/c he would fight against "cynical ploys" to stop p/b sbortions.
(NOTE: nurses at an Illinois hospital in 1999 discovered babies were being aborted alive and placed on shelves in soiled utility rooms to die unattended.)
BACKGROUND Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.
BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery. The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the US House.
NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.
But in Obama's Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left. Obama articulately asserted that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights (The very same judicial reasoning used to approve dismemberment of aborted babies).
In 2003, as chairman of the next state Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion chambers.
(NOTE As chair of that same committee, state Sen Obama once abruptly ended a hearing early, right before the parents of six children killed as a result of Illinois' drivers licenses-for-bribes scandal, were to testify in favor of Choose Life license plate legislation. Obama stalled. He later killed the bill when no one was around.)
CAUGHT ON TAPE-—Dr. Deborah Nucatola has been senior director of medical services at Planned Parenthood since February 2009. Dr. Deborah Nucatola is an obstetrician-gynecologist in Los Angeles, California. She received her medical degree from State University of New York Downstate Medical Center College of Medicine and has been in practice for 17 years.
Dr. Deborah Nucatola-—Certifications & Licensure
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"A vote for me is a vote for a Fully-Fornicating Society.
I pledge non-stop aggression over the unborn.
I will end the punishment of an unwanted birth."
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The genital-sniffing Planned Parenthood abortion worshippers who populate the Dem party are crazy over the Clintons......Bill and Hillary are the living breathing embodiment of The Fully-Fornicating Society w/ none of the evidence of sexual activity.....the "nuisance" of an actual child being born.
Bill gives sex-obsessed lefties a vicarious thrill....visions of the married, gray-haired Clinton getting a young WH intern to crawl under his desk to give him a BJ is better than Viagra.
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(Groan) God only knows what blood, gore and baby body parts Hillary will throw the genital-sniffing rubbermaids to assure them "her aggression over the unborn" will continue...and is her prime interest.
Maybe Hillary will distribute videos of politically-correct abortions that produce more profit-making baby body parts----as the true measure of her abortion worship?/
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DEFUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD --- CONTACT CONGRESS HERE:
http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
TELL CONGRESS: NO MORE TAX MONIES FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
At the same time Dr Deborah was bragging about her medical expertise in not crushing baby organs, enumerating the ones that could be sold at a profit to Stem Express....she was sipping wine and eating forks full of salad.
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OPEN THE BOOKS NOW---(1) Stem Express a company in collusion w/ tax-funded Planned Parenthood clinics to facilitate illegal sales of baby body parts and fetal tissue, and, (2) all tax-funded Planned Parenthood clinics engaged in the illegal selling of baby body parts.
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The Bank Secrecy Act should be mobilized----to follow the paper trail and determine how monies changed hands; to determine the scope and dimension of collusion in sub rosa deals and who might be personally profiting.
<><> L/E needs to examine Stem Express and tax-funded Planned Parenthood's bank accounts.
<><> Joint bank accounts might be used to facilitate the transfer funds from one account to another, and/or wire-transferred offshore;
<><> To cover his tracks, fake invoices might be created to show that money deposited into accounts was being used for legitimate purposes.
<><> Financial schemes scheme might be advanced by issuing phony statements of payments from financial sources that actually covered the transfer of funds for insiders' personal use and/or for profit redistribution schemes from the illegal sales of baby body parts.
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NOTE WELL Under the Bank Secrecy Act, banks are required to establish, implement and maintain programs designed to detect and report suspicious activity indicative of money laundering and other financial crimes. “The Bank Secrecy Act was enacted to protect the public from harm by identifying and detecting money laundering from criminal enterprises, terrorism, tax evasion or other unlawful activities,” the special agent in charge for Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation, explained.
Shady banking transactions could be prosecuted under the (1) Bank Secrecy ACT, (2) RICO, and, (3) the Hobbs Act.
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<><> L/E should get ahold of: (1) copies of Stem Express and Planned Parenthood's checks, (2) wire transfers, (3) account statements, (4) invoices, (5) bills, (6) delivery tickets, (7) correspondence including snail mail, e-mail, mobile devices, cell phones, (8) contracts, (9) loan agreements, (10) other account books or official records.
L/E should also explore (a) monies paid to brokers, sub- brokers, (b) Stem Express and Planned Parenthood's family members, (c) mortgage brokers, (d) financial managers, and, (e) real estate agents, brokers, and developers.
<><> L/E should scrutinize bank accounts for suspicious activites: (A) large deposits, (B) funds transferred from one account into another, (C) frequent requests for withdrawals.
<><> Bank records might also show diversions to secret LLC accounts, to money launder and to operate personal ventures;
Tax fraud may also be a factor, facilitated by withdrawals, gift cards purchases, credit card purchases and intra-bank transfers from legal bank accounts into personal accounts, or redistribution schemes.
<><> A huge tipoff is whether bank withdrawals support and luxurious lifestyle including payments for real estate, investment and stock holdings, jewelry, luxury vehicles, resort travel....... and gifts from luxury outlets.
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FBI TIPS PAGE--YOU MAY REMAIN ANONYMOUS ---https://tips.fbi.gov
SUBJECT: Collusion, conspiracy, bribery
IN RE: financial irregularities
REFERENCE: govt fraud, falsified documents, wire transfers, accounting fraud, etc.
NARRATIVE Taxpayers demand to know the scope and dimension of multiple conspiracies to collude in sub rosa deals to personally profit and/or to facilitate illegal sales of baby body parts.
OF INTEREST TO LAW ENFORCEMENT The FBI should interrogate individuals at Stem Express and Planned Parenthood for evidence of multiple schemes to falsify official documents to further fraudulent schemes, and the filing of official documents that were falsified. The FBI should investigate any and all official documents submitted for falsified entries.
Crimes might include--govt fraud, conspiracy, collusion, falsifying official documents (a felony), money laundering, tax evasion, extortion, theft, misuse of public facilities.
Examine tax returns of Stem Express and Planned Parenthood... particularly entries for "interest income."
ok..... I misunderstood your sentence
A "fetus" that is one minute away from beginning the transition down the birth canal hasn't had that special switch thrown yet that allows it to feel pain.
The scientific theory is that once their lungs fill with air, all of their nerve endings are instantly and simultaneously activated, and then they feel pain, and are considered a person at that point.
Don't you know anything?
/S
Well, to your credit, I guess it wasn’t the clearest statement. I was trying to put more than just the word “homicide” on it and portray what this PP butchery reall is and to divest it from the conventional organ transplant process altogether. I guess I could have been more succinct.
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