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Yes, You're a Racist -- And a Traitor
The Huffington Post ^ | June 23, 2015 | John E. Price

Posted on 06/23/2015 11:56:19 AM PDT by EveningStar

Edited on 06/24/2015 8:32:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

... I hate Gone With the Wind. I hate everything about it. I hate its portrayal of the Civil War. I hate its portrayal of Southern aristocrats. I hate its popularity. I hate that it's become an iconic movie. I hate that it was ever made in the first place.

Gone With the Wind is Birth of a Nation with less horses. The movie, and its position among the American cinematic pantheon, has done more to further the ahistoric Lost Cause bull**** than any other single production. Because that's the fundamental problem with the Lost Cause narrative: it's not true.

Let's go one-by-one through some typical Lost Cause-tinged revisionist talking points:

The Civil War was about economics, not slavery!

The Civil War was about states' rights, not slavery!



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederacy; confederateflag; deathbyfederaltroops; gonewiththewind; gwtw; lostcause; racism; readtheentirearticle; statesrights
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To: EveningStar

Dear Mr. Price, if you’re going to publish, you should learn the language. It’s “fewer horses” not “less horses”. Use “fewer” when it refers to something you can count (like horses). Use “less” when it refers to something that you can’t count (like stupidity).

You’re welcome.


81 posted on 06/23/2015 6:23:03 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: henkster

Don’t forget the slavery of the producers (us) who work for the benefit of our new masters (the welfare queens). My definition of slavery: having the fruits of your labor forcibly taken from you. By that definition, the government owns us and we work for the deadbeats. Those deadbeats include every welfare cheat, and most politicians.


82 posted on 06/23/2015 6:26:42 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: EveningStar
Angry at this person, this "neighbor" of mine. Angry at the culture that permits such blatant hatred. Angry at the media who provide cover for the ignorant. Angry at the teachers who perpetuate historical falsehoods. Angry at myself for not being angry before.

I hate Gone With the Wind. I hate everything about it. I hate its portrayal of the Civil War. I hate its portrayal of Southern aristocrats. I hate its popularity. I hate that it's become an iconic movie. I hate that it was ever made in the first place.

... every day we don't knock on our neighbor's door... is another day nothing will change.

Advocating taking anger and hate to your neighbor's door. Just like the psycho kid in Charleston.

83 posted on 06/23/2015 6:57:43 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: CodeToad

Then who did. Please enlighten us.


84 posted on 06/23/2015 7:57:47 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Pelham

Wow, right on cue the very next post is one of his twins...marron, or more accurately MORON...spouting off with its hate-filled vitriol. Lefties love to HATE hate!


85 posted on 06/23/2015 8:00:09 PM PDT by nhbob1
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To: miss marmelstein

I agree, GWTW. as a work of romantic fiction, was a very accurate portrayal of the old South during the Civil War. It was NOT about the issue of slavery as some liberal idiots believe. I am surprised these idiots have not called for GWTW to be banned because it portrays slavery.

BTW, Mrs. Texicanus is a GWTW collector/fanatic. She could watch the movie everyday. The house is full of GWTW dolls, plates, posters, and other memorabilia. I’m her Rhett and she’s my Scarlett for the past 41 years.


86 posted on 06/23/2015 8:24:24 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: KGeorge
Google is your friend, Bubba. (”abolitionists, Karl Marx”) So is archive.org (That’s where the truth is. Before it became propagandized.)

Sorry, but all Google shows me is that Marx supported abolitionism, not that the abolitionists were fans of Marx. And I've been on enough Google snipe hunts trying to find evidence of yet another lost causer assertion to waste more time on it. You got proof? Post it.

And judging from the rest of your post, I take it that you believe women shouldn't be allowed to vote and that people opposed to slavery should have kept their mouths shut.

87 posted on 06/23/2015 11:31:31 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: generally
My definition of slavery: having the fruits of your labor forcibly taken from you

What society ever had no taxation?

88 posted on 06/23/2015 11:34:16 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Texicanus
That's very nice. Please tell your wife that I have forced my husband to drive to Jonesboro on the hottest day of the year to find the farmhouse that was the basis of Tara. I have 3 copies of the book, the movie, several Xmas ornaments from the Tara Museum so I am set if they try to ban it.

A brilliant book of storytelling and history. All taken from the reminiscences of her family who endured the siege of Atlanta.

89 posted on 06/24/2015 4:43:31 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: EveningStar

I understand. I am glad you do not agree with the article.


90 posted on 06/24/2015 5:53:57 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: miss marmelstein

Thanks, same here. We have been to Georgia to see Margret Mitchell’s hometown. We also have several early and late editions of the book too.

We find GWTW collectors every where we go. It’s is so sad, political correctness and big government want to intrude into our lives at this level and tell us we are racists because of our heritage.

These people who would have us deny or change our heritage are fools. It’s like trying to change the spots on a leopard. There’s nothing we can do to change the past except learn from our past failures and successes.

People descended from slaves must recognize the successes they have achieved since the abolition of slavery, instead they dwell on their failures and continue to blame it on racism.

I fear for America. Like the old South, the America we once knew may soon be GWTW.


91 posted on 06/24/2015 6:43:29 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Texicanus

“People descended from slaves must recognize the successes they have achieved since the abolition of slavery, instead they dwell on their failures and continue to blame it on racism.”

And be thankful that they live in the land of opportunity instead of some village in Africa.


92 posted on 06/24/2015 6:45:07 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Texicanus

Thank you so much for your thoughtful post. Yes, gone with the wind, Cynara. I never thought it would happen in my lifetime.

I actually would love to move to Georgia to be close to the source of the book. That’s how much I love it.


93 posted on 06/24/2015 7:02:43 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: two23

Thanks for
http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm

This is a good letter!


94 posted on 06/24/2015 7:48:26 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: TexasGator

Interestedly, I have found that black Africans and immigrants to the USA tend to disassociate themselves from our Afro-American blacks and it’s ghetto culture.

Many of the black professionals you see in our country came from Africa. They utilized their new found opportunities to achieve success in America.

They have proven African blacks can succeed in America, so why can’t Afro-Americans do the same? Is ‘whitey’ or racism keeping the black man down, or is the black man really keeping himself down?

America cannot guarantee a black man or any person success, they must earn it. Granted, the playing field may be slightly uneven, because of affirmative action biased toward minorities and special interest groups, but there really is no reason for anyone not to succeed if they try.

So I think all this racism crap is a smokescreen for big government socialism and welfare. As long as people, black or white, expect their government to provide them the necessities of life and care for them they will be slaves on the government plantation. They must learn to work and use the opportunities they are afforded if they want to be free. Unfortunately, many have chosen to take what the government gives them instead of what they came achieve for themselves.

And daily, with increasing enthusiasm, they blame racism, past injustices, and the lack of more opportunity as the cause for their condition. They are biting the hand that feeds them and in the process destroying America and themselves. Idiots!


95 posted on 06/24/2015 7:53:23 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Texicanus

Sorry, came achieve = can achieve.


96 posted on 06/24/2015 7:59:15 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Thanks, as long as people learn from the past there is hope for the future.

Maybe these idiots will take the time to read the book and enjoy the romance between two people of the old South, and not dwell on the slavery aspect.

BTW, Cleopatra had slaves and some say she was a beautiful black woman. I guess she was a racist unless her slaves were white. But I digress.

Have a nice day, must go...


97 posted on 06/24/2015 8:16:53 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Societies without governments, so nothing in modern times that I’m aware of. But there is a big difference between taxation that pays for necessities like defense and confiscatory taxation that is really just graft, corruption, redistribution, and enrichment of the “ruling class” at the expense of the working class.

Most of us are willing to pay taxes that give us defense, police and fire protection, infrastructure like roads and bridges.

Some of us (not me) are willing to pay taxes that give us schools, high speed rail, sports stadiums, etc. (I’m not against any of those things. I just think rail and sports should be funded by those businesses, not the taxpayer. I think schools are the responsibility of parents and/or students, not society.)

Few of us are willing to pay taxes that get funneled into ever larger bureaucracies and pay welfare recipients or unemployment. I’m not against charity when it is needed. I’m against the government being involved in it.


98 posted on 06/24/2015 8:30:15 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Texicanus
BTW, Cleopatra had slaves and some say she was a beautiful black woman.

Cleopatra was Macedonian, as were all the Ptolemys.

99 posted on 06/24/2015 11:09:13 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

It may take some days before I can locate those links, but I will. I wonder if you’re parsing words. Whatever. I wasn’t trying to send you off on a wild goose chase.

You think that feminism is a good thing? lol Actually, I think that only landowners & business owners should be allowed to vote (& our military, of course).

I think that, at that time, there were people who were just looking to undermine the social order. Just like now. If you look at the facts regarding what happened when Black people were freed &/or went north, it’s clear that the abolitionists weren’t their “benefactors” at all. To the contrary. Slaves had their needs provided for. Afterwards, they were really exploited- totally on their own & unprepared. They didn’t fare well, for the most part.
Not all, or even most, slave owners were rotten b*st*rds.

That said, I don’t “support” slavery, but it had been in practice for hundreds- even more than a thousand years. It wasn’t confined to Blacks. My father’s American ancestors were indentured Irish.
With mechanization, it was coming to an end anyway.

Slavery continues to this day- in Africa & elsewhere. Where is the outrage for that, I wonder? And why is it only such an issue for America, when it was widespread?


100 posted on 06/24/2015 11:26:44 AM PDT by KGeorge (First the Confederate Battle Flag, then the Cross. It's not far off.)
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