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6/13/2015 | tnmouth

Posted on 06/13/2015 6:58:07 AM PDT by TNMOUTH

Maybe some of you FREEPERS who bash Cruz for supporting TPA and who hold Jeff Sessions up as being a new hero for Americans....

Can you tell me WHY he supported CAFTA? Doesn't CAFTA give back door access to illegal immigration? Doesn't this hurt the American worker?

Inquiring minds want to know.


TOPICS: US: Alabama; US: Texas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2016election; alabama; cafta; election2016; jeffsessions; sessions; tedcruz; texas
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To: P-Marlowe

Obama wouldn’t have the power if CONGRESS HAD THE GUTS to stop him!

Do you think we should give ANY President his power?


41 posted on 06/13/2015 7:50:50 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: TNMOUTH
Funny, but didn’t Sessions support CAFTA?

Jeff Sessions on the Issues
Voted YES on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade. (Jul 2005)

Wasn't Reagan once a Democrat?

42 posted on 06/13/2015 7:52:03 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ExpatGator

Then, you deserve what you get.

You are so quick to jump ship when you have the most SOLID Conservative in a long time running.

You are WHY we lose elections. So, would Reagan have gotten your support or did he have to be 100% like you?


43 posted on 06/13/2015 7:52:36 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: philman_36

Yes, but people on here LAUd Sessions as some type of hero...

He supported CAFTA which gave back door amnesty...nobody is perfect.


44 posted on 06/13/2015 7:53:25 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: InterceptPoint
Not good enough.

I kinda thought the 3rd degree was in your personality. OK. Ted Cruz. He might be as good on the 2nd amendment as any of the other bozo's. He's still an influence peddler.

45 posted on 06/13/2015 7:53:43 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.)
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To: P-Marlowe

For those who refuse to do their homework...here is the HISTORY of TPA. That Damn Cruz...sold us out. Oh, wait...

so called trade promotion authority (TPA) since 2002, fast track negotiating authority is a temporary and controversial power granted to the President by Congress. The authority was in effect from 1975 to 1994, pursuant to the Trade Act of 1974, and from 2002 to 2007 by the Trade Act of 2002. Although it expired for new agreements on July 1, 2007, it continued to apply to agreements already under negotiation until they were eventually passed into law in 2011. In 2012, the Obama administration began seeking renewal of the authority.


46 posted on 06/13/2015 7:54:26 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: cripplecreek
Actually I’d like some explanations from the rest of the candidates. With the exception of Rand (Zero Chance) Paul, every last one of them have actively supported and lobbied for it only to duck and let Cruz take all the fire for it. That’s pretty damn cowardly in my opinion.

I agree with you. The others are no better.

The only difference, for me, is that I wasn't interested in the others. For various reason I considered the others to be no-go's for president (though some I would have considered for vp). I've said over and over, its Cruz or Cruz, there really is no plan B for me.

Some of the other posters are demanding, "well then if not Cruz, then who?" And I don't have any answer. Who is out there taking fire on this issue? Who is prepared to go to the mat to stop this thing?

What was the hurry, that this couldn't wait until O left office?

47 posted on 06/13/2015 7:55:28 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

I’m voting for Cruz or nothing.

Jesus himself would be thrown overboard by FReepers.


48 posted on 06/13/2015 7:57:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad political fact. Most people prefer a popular lie over an unpopular fact.)
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To: TNMOUTH
nobody is perfect.

I wholeheartedly agree. I know I'm not by a long shot.

49 posted on 06/13/2015 7:59:43 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: TNMOUTH
Obama wouldn’t have the power if CONGRESS HAD THE GUTS to stop him!

Not necessarily true. Obama has enough powers that have already been granted to the executive branch to destroy this nation. He's been doing a pretty bang up job of it without consulting congress.

Do you think we should give ANY President his power?

No. Quite frankly, TPA is not constitutional. Trade agreements are treaties and the method for approval of treaties is specified in the constitution. You can't draft a law that changes the treaty provisions of the constitution. But nobody pays any attention to the Constitution anymore. Not even Ted Cruz. Just call the treaty a trade agreement and you can avoid all the complications of that dreaded constitution.

50 posted on 06/13/2015 8:00:30 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: TNMOUTH

You are why we lose. You compromise with the devil and expect your freedoms. You’re either a naive fool or a cynical compromiser. You chose.
I will accept nothing less than 100%. You’re right on that. I gave 100%. I am a disabled veteran who gave a hell of a lot of my life and my health. The best years. In return, I expect public SERVANTS to respect two things:
The Constitution and our sovereignty.


51 posted on 06/13/2015 8:01:31 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: marron

I’ve never heard anyone point out that NAFTA, CAFTA and GATT, FTAA were outlined and designed in the 1950’s only to be implemented decades later. This stuff is just an extension of those that have been in the cards quite a while. That’s why no one is serious about getting in the way of this NWO endgame scenario for the US.


52 posted on 06/13/2015 8:03:20 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: TNMOUTH
Adress substance not personalities. Why do you favor TPA? Do you believe that TPA cedes Congressional power to the executive branch?

Do you agree or disagree with the following:

The authority granted in “Trade Promotion Authority” is authority transferred from Congress to the Executive and, ultimately, to international bureaucrats. The entire purpose of fast-track is for Congress to surrender its power to the Executive for six years. Legislative concessions include: control over the content of legislation, the power to fully consider that legislation on the floor, the power to keep debate open until Senate cloture is invoked, and the constitutional requirement that treaties receive a two-thirds vote. Legislation cannot even be amended.

53 posted on 06/13/2015 8:05:36 AM PDT by kabar
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To: marron

And speaking of courage, supporters of the other candidates haven’t exactly been bogged down under its weight. There have been several threads about the candidates going to kiss the ring of the Mittfather. All have been very quiet threads like this one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3299127/posts

Anyone who thinks their candidate has gained the protection of Romney operatives is fooling themselves. Their Candidate will remain safe as the Romney operatives stir strife and tear down other candidates one by one but the inevitable Ides of March moment will come and clear the final path for Jeb Bush.


54 posted on 06/13/2015 8:08:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad political fact. Most people prefer a popular lie over an unpopular fact.)
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To: Stentor

Find me a perfect politician. They don’t exist.

Right now Cruz is far and away our best choice. The current criticism of him is based on the fact that he believes in free trade. So do I. So did Reagan. And Milton Freidman. I happen to like that company better than the Dems and the Unions.

Unfortunately many if not most Freepers do not believe in anything approaching Free Trade. The think it costs us jobs and needs to be severely restricted. Perhaps it does. But I doubt it.

That knife cuts both ways. Look at Apple. Apple creates many jobs in China but many in the U.S. as well. Less free trade and a less successful Apple. Is that a good thing? Should we pass laws that tell Apple that they can’t export manufacturing jobs? I don’t think so.


55 posted on 06/13/2015 8:09:15 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: TNMOUTH
For those who refuse to do their homework...here is the HISTORY of TPA. That Damn Cruz...sold us out. Oh, wait...

TPA is an unconstitutional delegation of the Senate's power and obligation to approve treaties to the house and the president and specifically changed the voting requirements from 2/3 of the Senate to a simple majority of house and senate. .

Ted Cruz should have opposed TPA on the grounds that no president should have this power and that the method for approving treaties is specified in the Constitution.

But he didn't. Instead he surrendered this power to OBAMA!

[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; Article II section 2

Now where does it say anything in the constitution about the House or a simple majority approving these treaties?

Oh wait, these aren't "treaties", these are "trade agreements". Yeah that's the ticket.

56 posted on 06/13/2015 8:12:03 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Sheapdog

I’m not even trying to get into all that. The constitutionality of a lot of things they do is dubious, not only on this issue. The question for me is, if you were going to give someone a short-cut around the law, why would you give it to a guy like O who has no respect for law from the beginning? Others have said, well, we let Reagan or Bush do it. Fine. Obama isn’t Reagan or even Bush.

Whats the hurry that it couldn’t until he’s gone? Unless they essentially favor whats in it, but want him to take the blame? That would track pretty closely with GOPe’s tactic for O’care and O’immigration and O’budgeting until now.


57 posted on 06/13/2015 8:12:53 AM PDT by marron
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To: P-Marlowe

“Quite frankly, TPA is not constitutional. Trade agreements are treaties and the method for approval of treaties is specified in the constitution. You can’t draft a law that changes the treaty provisions of the constitution. But nobody pays any attention to the Constitution anymore. Not even Ted Cruz. Just call the treaty a trade agreement and you can avoid all the complications of that dreaded constitution.”

Exactly! I will accept ZERO unconstitutional acts from public servants. I damn sure will not reward them with my hard earned vote.


58 posted on 06/13/2015 8:13:45 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: InterceptPoint
Look at Apple. Apple creates many jobs in China but many in the U.S. as well.

Did you happen to notice that China has committed a massive act of war against the United States?

Free trade with the enemy. Is that a good thing?

59 posted on 06/13/2015 8:14:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: ExpatGator

trea·ty
A formally concluded and ratified agreement between countries.


60 posted on 06/13/2015 8:15:48 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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