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6/13/2015 | tnmouth

Posted on 06/13/2015 6:58:07 AM PDT by TNMOUTH

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To: Gaffer
There is NOTHING about this whole TPA, TPP, TAA, TIA whatever that cannot wait for 18 months.

Exactly. Whats the hurry? They should be stalling until O leaves office.

21 posted on 06/13/2015 7:28:30 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

Nope, we are not upset by it. I am not upset and many I know are not.

I can tell that you haven’t been paying attention. He has, countless times, EXPAINED HIMSELF...you refuse to accept his answer.

Does he need to write it out for you...or draw pictures? This whole “he needs to explain it” garbage has been done.


22 posted on 06/13/2015 7:28:32 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Diogenesis

You must be a Paulie...

Obviously, you have an idea of what is going on, so maybe I’d consult you.

LOL...not hardly.


23 posted on 06/13/2015 7:29:27 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: marron

This is all about Republican RINO leadership still thinking they have to pander to independents, moderates and Hispanics to win their own spots and the White House next year.

They were given an unmistakable mandate last November and they are taking it as a license to keep on acting like a bunch of asses. They don’t realize that the vote results were a last chance at redemption. They are failing miserably.


24 posted on 06/13/2015 7:31:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Fresh Wind

There is nothing wrong with pointing out Cruz’s missteps. There is no perfect representative for one but ones self. Cruz should be able to take critism and so should you.


25 posted on 06/13/2015 7:31:52 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: TNMOUTH

I support the US Constitution and Transparency.

Since you lie incessantly, throw ad hominems,
and support Goldman Sachs and Obama on Trade Deals,
you should consider some honesty and wear a “warning label”.


26 posted on 06/13/2015 7:32:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Paladin2

He has...but the over the top criticism isn’t good. Look, you dont’ like the deal. Get over it.

If you drop your support, then so be it.

Some of us don’t have an issue with TPA. Shouldn’t you be able to take that too?


27 posted on 06/13/2015 7:33:18 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: marron

From President Bush...

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/internationaltrade/talkers.html


28 posted on 06/13/2015 7:33:48 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: TNMOUTH

The House passed TPA. Where is the history of past TPAs? Why does it need to be 6 years? Who wrote it?


29 posted on 06/13/2015 7:35:10 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: TNMOUTH; P-Marlowe
Was the anti-American OBAMA the president when Sessions voted for a bad trade deal?

Does it matter?

You're kidding, right? Why would anyone give Obama filibuster proof authority on anything? Especially with a congress so unmanned they refuse to confront him on anything at all?

30 posted on 06/13/2015 7:35:47 AM PDT by marron
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To: TNMOUTH

Did CAFTA give fast track authority to the president?

Did it contain provision governing health care?

Are there direct points of correlation in the two bills?


31 posted on 06/13/2015 7:39:52 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel.)
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To: InterceptPoint
So, Cruz Bashers: Who should be our next President?

None of the above. Cruz is only being singled out because of the high level of his fraudulence. They're all captured by the globalists and the NWO. It's hilarious watching people desperately hang on to a cult of personality. The politicians will not save you.

32 posted on 06/13/2015 7:41:21 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.)
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To: TNMOUTH
Cruz didn’t vote to make it happened. My understanding is that TPA was simply renewed with this vote? I could be wrong, though.

Cruz claims he has read TPP and found nothing objectionable in it. He now claims he hasn't decided to vote for it or not. But he voted for TPA which specifically puts TPP and any other trade deals that Obama can come up with in the next 18 months on a fast track where 50 Senators and Biden can force it into law.

TPA effectively cuts off debate on the TPP and forces an up or down vote. This is the same thing as cloture. Cruz has said dozens of times that a vote for cloture is a vote for the bill. So using Ted Cruz's own arguments that he has used dozens of times, Ted Cruz has voted for this secret agreement. Now that everyone has a clue as to what is in it, Ted Cruz is trying to back track claiming that he hasn't made up his mind about voting for it. But Obama and McConnell can get their 50+1 votes from other people and Cruz can then dishonestly claim that he voted against it.

Then Cruz will effectively have used the same dishonest method of getting cover that he has accused all the RINOs of doing when they caved pretended to vote against funding Obamacare when they voted for cloture on the continuing resolution.

I really hate it when people I have put my faith and trust in betray me.

33 posted on 06/13/2015 7:42:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe

But, that didn’t address my concern...TPA is nothing new..so how can Cruz be blamed for this?


34 posted on 06/13/2015 7:47:42 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: marron

Actually I’d like some explanations from the rest of the candidates. With the exception of Rand (Zero Chance) Paul, every last one of them have actively supported and lobbied for it only to duck and let Cruz take all the fire for it. That’s pretty damn cowardly in my opinion.


35 posted on 06/13/2015 7:47:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad political fact. Most people prefer a popular lie over an unpopular fact.)
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To: Paladin2

I posted the past history of TPA.


36 posted on 06/13/2015 7:48:20 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: TNMOUTH

I’ll say: None of the above. Cruz was my last resort. He screwed the pooch with me over this.
One less coward now, huh?
This will be the 1st time since 1980, when I could cast my first vote, that I will probably not vote. I voted McCain and Romney against my better judgement. I will not vote again for anyone who goes along with anything that restricts my freedoms or sells my country out in the slightest. I am done compromising.
I’ll most probably write someone in.


37 posted on 06/13/2015 7:49:03 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: raybbr

Yes it did. It didn’t deal with health care as that wasn’t an issue...but did did allow, from my understanding, for back door AMNESTY. Which is relevant to today.

The correlation...this hurts the American worker in the minds of those who oppose Free Trade. It amazes me that Sessions can oppose a trade deal now, when voting for CAFTA and normalizing Trade with China.


38 posted on 06/13/2015 7:49:54 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: TNMOUTH
But, that didn’t address my concern...TPA is nothing new..so how can Cruz be blamed for this?

Because:

OBAMA IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT!

Nobody should be giving Obama any more power than he has currently usurped.

39 posted on 06/13/2015 7:49:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Stentor

None of the above.
++++
Not good enough. Who do you want to be the next President of the United States?


40 posted on 06/13/2015 7:50:13 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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