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1 posted on 03/18/2015 9:40:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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There is no diff between either of the uniparties on immigration.

Until CW-II, that is.


2 posted on 03/18/2015 9:42:15 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Walker is obviously another phoney.


3 posted on 03/18/2015 9:44:21 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Not one of the republicans candidates showing signs of running in 2016 will deport all illegals.

When we allow illegals to stay, it is a form of amnesty.
If I was the president, I would issue an executive order in deporting every single immigrant breaking our laws.

What good are laws when immigrants can break them?


4 posted on 03/18/2015 9:46:57 AM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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No I dont see a difference either, we can and should do better.


6 posted on 03/18/2015 9:50:27 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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I said it at the time and I’ll say again now; Walker says he changed his mind on illegal immigration, he said it for nothing more than political expediency.


7 posted on 03/18/2015 9:51:18 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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I just get the sense from Walker that if elected President we would all come to realize after about a year of his presidency that on every substantial issue... immigration, Barrycare, the national debt... he would be indistinguishable from Jeb Bush or John Boehner. I hope that wouldn’t be the case but I have to trust my instinct on this.


10 posted on 03/18/2015 9:53:56 AM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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Walker and Reince Priebus (leader of the GOPe) are “close friends”. What do you expect?


12 posted on 03/18/2015 9:56:19 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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My gut has told me for some time now, that Scott Walker is a ‘made man’ of the GOP-e. His recent flip-flops, ‘evolving’ positions, and missteps, have convinced me even further.


14 posted on 03/18/2015 9:56:49 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Walker’s opinion may have changed in the past few years after seeing what hussein’s idea of border control is, so I’m willing to give him a chance to clarify.

In the end, it will most likely be an enforcement/secure border trigger that would eventually open the door to a more comprehensive reform. This makes Walker in line with Rubio, not Bush.


15 posted on 03/18/2015 9:56:49 AM PDT by moehoward
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Of course there’s a HUGE difference between Bush and Walker.

Walker is saying that it’s possible for anyone to become a US citizen. And that’s true. If someone qualifies and jumps through the right hoops, they can become a US citizen. There *is* a pathway to citizenship. Maybe it can be modified.

Bush is saying to let illegals currently here stay here.

There is a significant difference.

This author is trying to kill off Walker so that Bush is the only man left standing.

And we are falling for it.

This is a repeat of the last election cycle — killing off everyone ... and then we’re stuck with Romney.


16 posted on 03/18/2015 9:57:26 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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We ultimately need to put in place a system that works. A legal immigration system that works

We have and have had an immigration system that works...He needs to be sent home until he learns what Americans want...

17 posted on 03/18/2015 9:58:02 AM PDT by Iscool
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” Notice the present tense. Walker still believes that illegal immigrants currently in the United States should be given a path to citizenship, but only if you secure the border first, which is a not uncommon Republican position on immigration. “

“Secure the border first” is and has been the fool-the-rubes position of the GOP establishment. Hannity has been giving them cover with this phrase since the last election.

“Secure the border first” is designed to sound like it does something. What it does is freeze the current situation in place. So it does absolutely nothing to help an illegal alien occupied state like California.

Our huge problem remains in place unless and until there is deportation- which happens to be what enforcing our immigration law will do if GOP and Democrat politicians will stop subverting the law.

Jeff Sessions is the only Senator that I know of who actually puts the interests of Americans ahead of trespassing foreign nationals. And Sessions isn’t running for anything so we know he means it. We should compare the position of candidates wanting to be President to that of Jeff Sessions.

Walker is now covering his tracks. He has a long record of advocating amnesty and amnesty-lite. It is all too clear that he is changing his tune to try to fool primary voters. No thanks.


21 posted on 03/18/2015 10:01:10 AM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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Here are the things we have in Wisconsin:

Concealed Carry
Lowered Taxes
A reined in DNR
A voter ID law
No mass transit
A dedicated highway fund (dems were using for a slush fund)
A reined in university system
A government that no longer collects dues for the union
Right to Work
A renewed mining opportunity in Northern Wisconsin
No obamacare

Now tell me he isn’t a conservative. Many times I have seen
him answer off the top of his head. Yet, when confronted with a problem he digs into and deals with it conservatively.

I have voted for Walker six times and will again. He is one politician I have also financially supported and will continue to. That is how he receives most of his support.


26 posted on 03/18/2015 10:07:11 AM PDT by Seabeejas (h)
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Uhn, huh....

“WALKER: I believe there’s a way that you can do that. First and foremost, you’ve got to secure that border or none of these plans make any sense.”

That’s quite a bit different than that BushTard and what we have been demanding.

How is that position like BushHole?


27 posted on 03/18/2015 10:07:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Big differences:

Bush
1. Border: Secure it (unspecific)
2. Amnesty: favors
3. Illegal residents: make them citizens
4. Immigration laws: No stated position

Walker
1. Border: Build a wall
2. Amnesty: against
3. Illegal residents: penalize existing residents (unspecific)
4. Immigration laws: No stated position

Cruz
1. Border: Build a wall (in some places)
2. Amnesty: categorically against
3. Illegal residents: No stated position
4. Immigration laws: Wants tighter immigration laws.


39 posted on 03/18/2015 10:15:01 AM PDT by kidd
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It’s my position no one can change their mind on the biggest, most threatening issue facing the American homeland. Considering what has occurred in the past 30 years with this endless violent lawless invasion, no way that can happen. We have an endless conga-line of Muslims and illegals entering...Nothing is more important than out homeland security.

These people change their minds to save their own self interest’s and their political butts.


42 posted on 03/18/2015 10:16:38 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Ask him about illegal immigration and Walker will say, 'secure the borders first,' which sounds fine, at first. Somehow the conversation then starts to become more ambiguous. From Huffpo:

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) broadened his support for a pathway to citizenship on Tuesday, the Wausau Daily Herald reports.

In a interview with the Daily Herald's editorial board, Walker said the government should "fix things for people already here." He continued that if the current process for citizenship wasn't so "cumbersome," there wouldn't be problems with people living in the United States without documentation.

Walker also dismissed concerns over border security, an argument frequently used by other Republicans against reforming the U.S. immigration system.

“You hear some people talk about border security or a wall or all that,” Walker said. “To me, I don’t know that you need any of that if you had a better, saner way to let people into the country in the first place.”

Walker then drew attention to Wisconsin's reliance on the labor of individuals who may or may not have entered the country legally.

“If people want to come here and work hard and benefit, I don’t care whether they come from Mexico or Ireland or Germany or Canada or South Africa or anywhere else,” Walker said. “I want them here.”

Now that's not so ambiguous. Looks like Walker's plan is one of those "we can't deport..." amnesty rackets that follow for those who got in. What do you bet that the 'secure the borders' plan comes with a time limit?
45 posted on 03/18/2015 10:17:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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This article doesn’t even mention the recent resignation of Liz Mair from the Walker campaign.

I’m so happy this has happened. I was very upset when she was hired - because she is gung-ho amnesty - and I think that’s why Walker’s statements of late have been so confusing. I think Liz was telling Walker that he HAD to be for immigration.

These newby candidates (national elections), get used and abused by “consultants” who swear they are the greatest thing since sliced bread - but they usually have an agenda. I believe her agenda was to get Walker to support Amnesty. Thankfully, it didn’t work.

I believe Walker is a straight shooter - and accepted her at face value. I have a feeling she did not truthfully represent herself.


54 posted on 03/18/2015 10:21:34 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("The hour has arrived to gather the Harvest")
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I can work with Walker. Petitions evolve, big deal. To much executive experience to toss away, hardened by the recall, fully vetted by the press, and willing to fight Democrats. Willing to stand up against the unionization of public employees, and pro right to work.

Can’t pass up this combo for little disagreements which might not even be disagreements. I have to go with what he’s done, and Wisconsin doesn’t even qualify illegals for in state tuition.


83 posted on 03/18/2015 10:35:20 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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This guy is wrong.

The truth of the matter is that Cruz and Walker are very close in their opinions on immigration, and that Jeb and Rubio form the other extreme of the GOPe position.

100 posted on 03/18/2015 10:42:20 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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