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Don’t believe the hype — Hillary Clinton can be beat
nypost ^ | Nov. 9, 2014 | George F. Will

Posted on 11/09/2014 8:46:52 AM PST by PROCON

Now that two of the last three Democratic presidencies have been emphatically judged to have been failures, the world’s oldest political party — the primary architect of this nation’s administrative state — has some thinking to do.

The accumulating evidence that the Democratic Party is an exhausted volcano includes its fixation with stale ideas, such as the supreme importance of a 23rd increase in the minimum wage. Can this party be so blinkered by the modest success of its third recent presidency, Bill Clinton’s, that it will sleepwalk into the next election behind Hillary Clinton?

In 2016, she will have won just two elections in her 69 years, the last one 10 years previously. Ronald Reagan went 10 years from his second election to his presidential victory at age 69, but do Democrats want to wager their most precious possession, the presidential nomination, on the proposition that Clinton has political talents akin to Reagan’s?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cankles; hellno; hillary; humahumahuma; oldhag
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Don't listen to this tripe. Nobody can beat me, I'm entitled and I'm A Clinton!

1 posted on 11/09/2014 8:46:52 AM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON

IMHO, she could lose in the primaries to another Democrat.


2 posted on 11/09/2014 8:48:19 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Hillary was inevitable supposedly in 2008, and was taken down by Obama in the primaries.

If Hillary was inevitable before and was taken down, what makes everyone think that she is inevitable this time around???


3 posted on 11/09/2014 8:53:09 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Morpheus2009
Remember...she was a shoo in for the nomination last time around....and wound up losing to a clean, articulate, unknown, one term, black man. I think the party will pull the same rug from asunder....and she'll fall on her face AGAIN.

She certainly did a sh**-a** job as Secretary of State.

Frankly, I think she sees the writing on the wall....and will NOT run.

4 posted on 11/09/2014 8:54:26 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: PROCON
In 2016, she will have won just two elections in her 69 years

And it took her "husband" pardoning Puerto Rican terrorists to make that happen.

How long can she ride those coattails?

5 posted on 11/09/2014 8:54:43 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: PROCON
The accumulating evidence that the Democratic Party is an exhausted volcano

Yeah. An exhausted volcano that Republicans like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell dump flammables and matches into in order to re-energize it.

Don't they even know how volcanoes work?

6 posted on 11/09/2014 8:57:05 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: PROCON

The fawning media are almost orgasmic at the thought of a Clinton-Bush match.

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The same faction that derailed Hillary in 2008 are most likely planning a similar fate for her in 2016, if she does run.

The recent election showed that the Clinton touch does not necessarily get others elected. Nearly every one she and BJ endorsed also lost. They could not even pull incumbent Senator Mark Pryor into the winner’s circle in their previous home state, where BJ served in state government for 3 decades.

The media are still enamored by the Clintons. The rest of America, not so much.


7 posted on 11/09/2014 8:57:09 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Morpheus2009

JMHO she will not even put her hat in the ring. She is putting her toe in the water now and finding it is very very chilly. Obama not only poisoned the well but he iced it too.


8 posted on 11/09/2014 9:02:48 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Morpheus2009

The problem(s) for Hillary are two-fold.

One is that she is an old bag, and now looks like an old bag.

Two is Hillary Clinton’s voice, when not carefully scripted and controlled, quickly rises to a screechy, hectoring nastiness that makes a man’s testicles recede up into his neck and makes most women taste aluminum.


9 posted on 11/09/2014 9:05:38 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Don Corleone

Bill said that Hillary wanted to be a grandma more than she ever wanted to be president. We’ll see.


10 posted on 11/09/2014 9:05:49 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: PROCON

11 posted on 11/09/2014 9:06:35 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Ouderkirk

Yep, like when she screeches “what difference does it make”,

or when she screeches that “we are Americans and have the right to debate and disagree with ANY administration”.

Everyone raises their voice sometimes, politicians can do so as part of their speeches to make a point of emphasis. But when Hillary does that, she sounds like every man’s proverbial histrionic first wife.


12 posted on 11/09/2014 9:08:18 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: PROCON

Hillary will also fight the voices in her head


13 posted on 11/09/2014 9:08:51 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Exactly.

Personally, I don't think the Democrats trust her. In that regard it wasn't the Obama administration who poisoned the well for her ... it was her own husband's administration.

Remember -- this is a woman who spent something like six years serving on the board of directors of Wal-Mart, of all companies. I think Democrats see the Clintons the same way Republicans do: as opportunists and frauds. She doesn't have Bill Clinton's political skills to overcome that baggage.

14 posted on 11/09/2014 9:10:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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The media are still enamored by the Clintons

Not as much. This morning, even Donna Brazille seemed to be stepping off the bandwagon.

Here's what the electorate have to watch out for. It's how the game is played. Can hillary win? No. Can a RINO Chamber of Commerce fave win? No. But if they run against each other, somebody has to.

Think like a RINO (yuck, I feel dirty). If we get an excellent and articulate constitutional conservative nominee we win and the RINOs lose the presidency and their political dominance. If hillary wins agains a RINO? hillary's part of the game, so they're okay with that.

15 posted on 11/09/2014 9:12:59 AM PST by grania
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To: PROCON
Don’t believe the hype — Hillary Clinton can be beat

She was beat by a Chicago Community Organizer. How badly will she do against somebody who actually has a plan to fix the economy.

16 posted on 11/09/2014 9:13:52 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: PROCON

The Clintoons like so many of the elite rat power insiders are ancient in age and in their political core.

Like the other geriatric leaders of the rat party, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Fineswine, Madam Secretary Kerry, Bidden, Jessie Jack$on/Al $harpton and others, they started their power trip in the 1960/70’s with a core of Hate America and anti business. They have blamed America for the problems created by them and their allies here and around the world.

Decades, later, they haven’t changed and still push their out of date anti America core beliefs to buy and pay for their feral voters. Their biggest failure, the War on Poverty, is in their minds, their biggest success.

Their so called younger stars are pro abortion Barbies and gay Kens with even harsher anti America values merged with phoney anti racist bs backed by Eric Holder. As a result, their younger wannabees struck out as bad during this past election as their passe older generation.


17 posted on 11/09/2014 9:14:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Islam/ISIS = The Ebola of religious/political ideologies!)
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To: PROCON

Hillary Clinton is an incredibly weak candidate, with terrible political skills.

Her team is using the 19th century technique of claiming massive support to deceive the gullible and bring along doubters.

She was whipped in 2008 by a weak candidate with no accomplishments and a dubious background. Her “policies” are warmed-over dreck.

She’s counting on Jeb Bush to be scared of attacking her, as part of the “war on women”. Which he probably will be.


18 posted on 11/09/2014 9:14:58 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

She wont even make it out of the starting gates she aint well


19 posted on 11/09/2014 9:15:50 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’ve also heard that there are other ambitious Democrats, who see a Hillary candidacy blocking their paths for the next 10 years.

Reason being, if Hillary wins the presidency in 2016, then she will run for re-election in 2020. Meaning that the next open Democrat presidential primary contest would be in 2024, ten years from now.

I’ve heard some behind the scenes action is taking place based on not wanting the Clintons to block others for the next 10 years. Just another piece of the political puzzle going forward.


20 posted on 11/09/2014 9:16:59 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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