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House chaos a sign Boehner is Cruz’ing to Obama impeachment?
Washington Post ^ | August 1 at 4:16 PM | Jonathan Capehart

Posted on 08/02/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

The Post articles on the House Republican revolt over the border bill and and the role Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) played in making it happen have nuggets of information that show why I’ve been harping about the possibility of  impeachment since June.

As the article on the revolt notes, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his allies said they had the votes to pass a border bill that not only speeded up deportations but also had a $659 million price tag, which was considerably less than the $3.7 billion President Obama asked for. And then the bill was pulled from the floor — like so many others before it.

Why, exactly a year ago yesterday Boehner pulled a spending bill from the Transportation and Housing and Urban Development due to lack of support. A little more than a month later, on Sept. 11, 2013, Boehner pulled a temporary funding bill meant to stave off a government shutdown because the rank and file were upset it didn’t defund Obamacare. On Dec. 20, 2012, Boehner pulled his fiscal cliff “Plan B” proposal because it “did not have sufficient support from our members to pass.” Oh, and there was that vote on March 15, 2011, when Republican defections forced Boehner to rely on Democrats to pass a three-week spending bill to keep the government from shutting down then.

I highlight these moments along Boehner’s legislative trail of failure — and these are just the examples I could remember — to show his inability to stand up to the far-right-wing of his calamitous caucus. As you see, his problems pre-date the arrival of Cruz in the Capitol in January. But the freshman senator from Texas has successfully exploited the leadership vacuum in the House

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Texas
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1 posted on 08/02/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
From the Article:
The freshman senator also reminded them to be skeptical of promises from House leaders, particularly of “show votes” – legislative action designed to placate conservatives that carry little, if any, weight.

2 posted on 08/02/2014 11:59:25 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; MountainDad; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

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3 posted on 08/02/2014 12:00:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Boehner will try his best to help his Bro Barry


4 posted on 08/02/2014 12:00:27 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: FreeReign

You and the author of this Washington Post article are advocating for the same thing: Impeachment. That seems odd, doesn’t it?


5 posted on 08/02/2014 12:07:16 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SoConPubbie

Who knows what that Benghazi Committee might turn up.


6 posted on 08/02/2014 12:08:55 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SoConPubbie
Lawlessness, corruption, and thuggery have become standard operating procedures under liberal democrat leadership.

Their supporters will continue to pretend that nothing has happened. They work very hard to cover for these guys, and they provide funding for them. Thus, they become partakers of this corruption.

7 posted on 08/02/2014 12:10:51 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: centurion316

Strikes me that now is the time for people like us FReepers to be building public support for impeachment while congressional pubbies keep mum. Then, if we win the Senate and chances for conviction look favorable, go for it, but not until then.


8 posted on 08/02/2014 12:13:06 PM PDT by libstripper
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]

9 posted on 08/02/2014 12:15:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SoConPubbie

Still need 67 in the Senate. Ain’t happening soon.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 12:16:57 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: centurion316

The author isn’t advocating impeachment, he’s predicting it.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 12:20:01 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: libstripper

Even if the Pubs get control of the Senate they would need 2/3 to convict. Let’s just say that’s extremely unlikely.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 12:21:44 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Hugin

He’s actually begging for it, as are much of the media and the Democrat Party leadership. It’s practically the only hope that they have left.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 12:22:20 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Hugin

I’m predicting impeachment, but led by Democrats as he wheels come off the bus.


14 posted on 08/02/2014 12:23:52 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: centurion316
You and the author of this Washington Post article are advocating for the same thing: Impeachment. That seems odd, doesn’t it?

Okay. So you can't really respond to my points so you bring up a new point.

Anyway...they are goading Boehner to clear the way for the president to do whatever he wants with impeachment being taken off the table.

And that's exactly what Boehner (and you) have done. Odd isn't it.

Does 'No Impeachment' Fulfill Saul Alinsky's Rule #4?


15 posted on 08/02/2014 12:27:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Don Corleone
Still need 67 in the Senate. Ain’t happening soon.

Not unless Ebola strikes in the Senate Democrat cloakroom. (Tho, given the Obama administration's level of incompetence at everything else they've managed, an Ebola epidemic in Washington DC has a probability of something more than 0.)

BTW, didn't the House pass the bill last night? It's going to be buried deep in the heart of Yucca Mountain by Harry Reid -- but they did pass it. Shouldn't WaPo columnists at least read the front page of their own paper? I wouldn't -- but I'm not being paid by the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-gop-moves-closer-on-immigration-bill-ahead-of-recess/2014/08/01/11084a2e-1983-11e4-9e3b-7f2f110c6265_story.html

16 posted on 08/02/2014 12:36:22 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SoConPubbie

The WP is doing what they always do....inventing stuff. The HOR finally did something responsible. They listened to what their voters want.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 12:38:00 PM PDT by grania
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To: FreeReign

I think there’s probably a strategy, believe it or not.

The House can impeach Obama to its heart’s content and he’ll remain in office. Only if the GOP gets the Senate can he actually be removed from office. Remember Bill Clinton, who actually was impeached...with no effect.

So I’d say the lawsuit is a gambit. It has real potential, but probably won’t make it through the system until Obama is leaving office. However, in the meantime, it’s keeping Obama off-guard, and that’s why he’s talking about impeachment all the time.

Impeachment is an Obama fundraising tool, and only fools would fall for it. But if we get more seats in the Senate (which seems less and less likely to me, alas), then it could be a reality, and Cruz and Boehner know it.


18 posted on 08/02/2014 12:39:10 PM PDT by livius
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To: Don Corleone

Even 67 republican senators wouldn’t be enough because of the RINO factor.


19 posted on 08/02/2014 12:58:46 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: livius
Impeachment is an Obama fundraising tool, and only fools would fall for it.

The Democrats are smart to use impeachment as a fund raising tool.

The Republicans such as Boehner, are foolish not to.

The Democrats goad Boehner to take impeachment off the table.

Boehner foolishly takes impeachment (and just about everything else) off the table.

20 posted on 08/02/2014 1:02:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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