Posted on 06/04/2014 10:19:50 AM PDT by Iced Tea Party
We have a winner!
The people are the government and the people should control marriage. Otherwise, anyone can claim to be a church and then marry gays or any other combination you can think of.
Someone could start a church called the Gay Church of Christ and marry all the gays they wanted and without a government regulation on marriage, there would be nothing we could do to control it.
Thus, we end up with marriage as a contract between 2 to n people of any sex, blood status or age.
I wish the gay “marriage” proponents would be honest about that being the end game.
The government shoud be in the business of issuing a license that recognizes the civil partnership of two consenting adults. They should further offer the services of a notary to complete and file the license once both partners sign it.
If you want a religious celebrant to recognize your marriage at a joyous celebration, the state shouldn’t be involved.
Yes this sucks but the genie isn’t going back into the bottle.
Secondly, the people of each state need to decide to leave marriage out of state government's hands. Same issue: flat tax solves state meddling in martial and other personal status.
If it were only an issue about money, then problem solved.
Homosexual marriage isn’t about tax status.
I’ve tried to explain this for 30 years. Your preacher marries you. This is what marriage is: a contract between two people and God. The fact that the state chooses to recognize this arraignment is secondary. But, even preachers are ignorant of the concept of marriage, and most won’t even perform a ceremony without a marriage “license.” People are just plain stupid, and that is why we suffer.
If that happened today the black robed tyrants on the Federal bench would declare the voters' actions to be unconstitutional and reinstate the law. Like everything else that has happened in this country for the past 25 years it has been done against the will of the people.
Cultural civil war can be avoided by getting government out of marriage.
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Crap and Bull Crap. Just what one would expect from a liberal rag.
this is a nonsense argument pushed by the ABA.
It is by design, intended to remove children out of marriage and make them a separate legal issue and make probate rules default to the state inheriting all.
WE USED TO HAVE a non state recording system. It was full of fraud and abandonment. It does not work.
This is a junk argument for establishment republicans to find cover from those who do not support sexual fetish based “marriage”.
All voluntary makes anything goes. Marry your cat, all your cats, your refrigerator, one two three fifty people and things. Marry your real estate or pot plant or personal property. There is no rule against it.
So can the state then force a contractual spouse to testify against their contractual partner in court? Also, from the point of view of taxes then will my stay at home spouse then be nonexistent, i.e., I will be treated as if I am a single person perhaps doubling my taxes? If you want to really kill traditional marriage then treat the traditional man works/wife stays home the same as a single person enjoying life in SF.
It already IS a private right! Everything that is not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution IS a God-given right and is reserved to the states and people receptively (10th Amendment).
Quit trying to create a Soviet Stater where the state creates rights, the State then expands its power to enforce, and the State may take away at any time. America is exceptional becasue it acknowledges the beginning point in the affairs of man is the INDIVIDUAL's God-given (not man-given) unalienable rights.The Constitution is aimed at binding the federal government to ensure it stays within those LIMITED rights and powers DELEGATED by the Constitution via the states and the people.
How do you get marriage out of the government? Will the federal government still be treating, for example, in the armed forces, a perverted homo couple the same equivalent as a man-and-wife in regards to military housing?
“The fact that the state chooses to recognize this arraignment is secondary.” LOL!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not sure if it’s an
“I saw what you did there” typo,
but it sure is the most delicious Miss Spelling I’ve read in a LONG time!
LOL!!!!!!
This nonsense about getting the government out of marriage is just another libertarian ploy to advance the leftist agenda through appeasement.
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Without government involvement in marriage, what would that matter? Anyone can create whatever kind of church they like, and call it whatever they want. This is established under the First Amendment. If someone wants to form a church that conforms to what they personally believe and conduct marriages, how does that affect anyone outside of whatever congregation they may have?
I've known of divorced women not gay who wanted a civil union, not a marriage, so children and exes would not take over in times of emergency.
Ugh, a fundamentally dumb argument.
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