THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

America's Freedom Fighters ^ | Apr 9, 2014 | Clark Kent

[xzins]

By SHIREE BUNDY COX:

I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight.

Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it is in a nut shell.

My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972.

These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars.

These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights.

Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches.

My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.

Instead they began using these money’s against the ranchers.

They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with their own grazing fees.

When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job.

He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down.

So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes.

In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business.

Well when buying him out didn’t work, they used the indangered species card.

You’ve already heard about the desert tortis.

Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years.

Now they’re desperate.

It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff.

Everything they’re doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America.

Now you may be saying,” how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you.

They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again.

Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.

Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him.

Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed.

Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it.

They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Auction and sell them.

All with our tax money.

They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars.

See how slick they are?

Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks”

[Scoutmaster]

Adverse possession? That’d be an interesting argument.

Nevada state law requires color of title for adverse possession; the Bundy family would be required to present the legal document that purported to convey title.

Nevada state law also requires that all state and federal taxes have been paid on land on which ownership is claimed by adverse possession, from the point where the claimant (and all predecessors to the claimant) first took possession to the time of any legal action.

[heylady]

“He never owed any fees!

The imposition of fees was unlawful.

I hope they impose fees to your toilet seat next”

Finally someone that gets it. This government has so over regulated everything in our lives and we all just roll over and play dead. Well not this guy he is fighting back. Thank God the patriots at the Boston Tea Party didn’t just sit there and say,” We have to pay the tax on tea. It is the law”

[x1stcav]

Don’t necessarily have to shoot them. Just make them pariahs.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

Excellent point. Holder does not obey the law. Obama changes it with a phone or a pen when it suits him. Corzine lost a couple billion of OPM and he wasn't even questioned.

What did laws do for the Branch Davidians, or Randy Weaver?

[IYAS9YAS]

Finally someone that gets it. This government has so over regulated everything in our lives and we all just roll over and play dead. Well not this guy he is fighting back. Thank God the patriots at the Boston Tea Party didn’t just sit there and say,” We have to pay the tax on tea. It is the law”

You know, you're right. I've been looking at this from the wrong end of things. I'm willing to admit when I'm in the wrong. When you take what our forefathers intended, and what they fought against, then yes, I support the rancher.

I've been looking at this from the perspective that the fedgov has controlled the use of the land for more than 130 years, and at some point established a fee system to improve rangeland that was, at times, overgrazed and mismanaged. The point is, the land should never have belonged to the feds, it should have belonged to the states. And what the states did with it is what should have mattered.

I'm from the west, and most of the land in the west is owned by the government.

I don't mind some set-asides for all to use, but we don't need percentages of half the state or more to be under federal control.

[Eagles6]

Good post.

[crz]

Legally, this could really upset the courts. Who would try the case? State? Even that, will be brought to question in a round bout way.

I think somebody’s gonna get rich and it aint Bundy.

[tacticalogic]

I don't mind some set-asides for all to use, but we don't need percentages of half the state or more to be under federal control.

I think fedgov claims about 90% of Nevada.

[butterdezillion]

Start right here at the comment I’m replying to, to see how people justify serious comments just like the sarcastic ones I made.

BTW, I never did say I thought there was a wax dummy in a casket, and anybody who says otherwise has really poor reading comprehension. I said I was surprised that there WASN’T - but instead there was a photoshop of some images that didn’t match the genuine photo of the casket.

The method is the same though. Start out with the assumption that there are some things beyond the dignity of this thug regime (such as faking a death/funeral in order to give somebody a new identity away from potential Congressional investigation - like we already know they did with dozens of Benghazi witnesses) and then when anybody comes up with evidence that suggests that this unthinkable thing actually happened, you mock it (or watch the thread for amusement purposes) and then say that the idea is batsh!t crazy so go away to Alex Jones.

That’s how it’s done. People get a real kick out of laughing at claims that the regime (or somebody else) might have done elsewhere exactly what was done in Benghazi.... It’s just such a hilarious subject... What kind of morons would think that the regime would go to the trouble of faking deaths to evade investigations? .... Only idjits. We all know Benghazi didn’t happen....

[TigersEye]

I can’t answer those legal questions but I agree that someone will get rich and it won’t be Bundy. I wouldn’t be shocked to find out that Harry Reid and some developers are lurking in the background.

[unixfox]

As usual the government starts a fire, then blames the owner. And of course wants him to pay damages. When he refuses they use force.

Then they wonder why people start shooting back at them. If someone gets shot it will be the feds who have blood on their hands for starting this mess.

[crz]

Now you are getting down to the nitty gritty. Reid made his millions off from getting BLM lands turned over to be developed around Vegas. Then, he got kick backs for each lot sold.

AND THAT my friend, is a fact.

[SgtHooper]

That is totally irrelevant to the argument. It could be the most desolate place on earth, yet technology exists to grow fields of corn in that place. There needs to be oversight management of federal lands otherwise people will have the opportunity to abuse it.

Another irrelevant point is whether the federal government has the right to manage it. That is a WHOLE different argument.

In this case, the agreement was established long ago, and Bundy failed to uphold his part of the contract. So now he must keep his cattle off the land.

Bundy grazed his cattle on that ground, and he owes fees to do so. He stopped paying. His rights are terminated.

[combat_boots]

Now THAT I would believe of this situation in a NY minute.

[dragnet2]

It’s not his land.

Gracias! Viva American Federal Government....Viva American Federal Government!

Keep forcing stupido racist Americano gringos to hand it over.

Beat them like a pinata...

[TigersEye]

Yes it is true. Our FRiend DaxtonBrown, who posted here, wrote a book about it and has links and info on his home page.

[xzins]

I disagree about her statement. She maintains throughout that they’ve been wronged and as much as ever when it came to paying for rights.

She says they were told those fees were for a certain purpose but then the government stopped providing the service they’d paid for. He canceled their policy in her mind.

It would be no different than my canceling my flood insurance policy. I’d have to then deal with it myself and not rely on the fed. As a farmer would say, he said “I fired them.”

He would not have thought he stopped having access to the land because he thought the fees were for the services promised.

In North Carolina, the Fed promised the people of Swain county a road after the Fed inappropriately pressured people into giving up land for the Smoky Mountain Park. They have never provided that road.

Should the descendants now move back onto that land and say, “They never did their part of the bargain.”?

I would fully understand if they did.

[xzins]

See posts 152 and 156

[demshateGod]

Agreed. I wish I knew a federal agent I could ostracize.

[Ray76]

They want him off his land so that the area can become a preserve, to compensate for destruction caused elsewhere by solar and wind power projects.

It is related to the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone project.

Excerpts from the Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone

Proposed Mitigation Actions and Locations. The Gold Butte ACEC is preliminarily recommended as the best recipient location for regional mitigation from the Dry Lake SEZ. [page 29]

The Gold Butte ACEC was established in the Las Vegas RMP [Resource Management Plan] (BLM 1998). The Las Vegas RMP also specifies the resource constraints of the Gold Butte ACEC, which include: ... Closed to grazing. The resource values found in the Gold Butte ACEC are threatened by: ...trespass livestock grazing [page 30]

The map on page 31 shows that the Gold Butte ACEC includes the Bunkerville Allotment which is where Bundy's ranch is.

Further detail here http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3142972/posts?page=93#93. Prior posts in that thread have additional background info.