The "mouth" of the Altamaha is close to what is now Darien, Georgia.
This could be trouble.
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Cool post, I hope the archaeology freepers show up to flesh this out.
Looks like it....they found some sort of structure from a collection of different maps and references of the era. They have not, as yet, excavated it.
In 1565, Spanish soldiers under Pedro Menéndez marched into Fort Caroline and slaughtered some 143 men and women who were living there at the time.
Some fort, eh?
I am not sure why. This discovery won’t change the date of the settlement at Plymouth and it won’t change the fact that it wasn’t the first in North America.
This puzzled me, but now I get it.
“”In 1565, Spanish soldiers under Pedro Menéndez marched into Fort Caroline and slaughtered some 143 men and women who were living there at the time.””
Come now everyone by now knows that Leif Erickson founded Minnesota long before Columbus, the Pilgrims and the French. Ft. Caroline will not change the facts about Plymouth.
Plymouth Bay is the only surviving colony settlement. Were they wanting to settle further south. What ever happened to the other colony settlement they were heading to. There was another settlement too Jamestown, which would have preceded Plymouth, but it did not survive.
"This map serves as a 'Rosetta Stone' since it provides a common, known geographical point on all early maps of 'French Florida,'" he said. The Rosetta Stone was an inscribed rock found by the French in Egypt that allowed the translation of ancient hieroglyphics into modern languages.
Using the known GPS coordinates derived from the English map, Crowe was able to propose the location of dozens of Indian villages that up until now have eluded scholars and archaeologists.
Wait.... our schools have now gotten so bad that the author actually needed to explain what the Rosetta Stone is?
Fort located near the mouth of the Altamaha River?
Satellite imagery shows a unrealistic place to build a fort.
Interesting in that Fort Caroline National Memorial is located on the
St. Johns River east of Jacksonvill, FL.
http://www.nps.gov/timu/index.htm
I vote for Acoma Sky City, Acoma Puebla, New Mexico as the oldest continuously inhabited village in North America.
Lew
He was a French Hugenot that made the three voyages to and from the colony at Fort Caroline in the 1560's. In spite of the fact the article says " "The inability to find the fort has made some wonder if it ever existed." There can be no legitimate wonder because of this book. It is first hand primary source.
In 1854, Kirk Monro wrote a book titled "The Flamingo Feather". As a boy, I read it over and over. It is essentially a fictional account of the events descried in "Three Voyages"
As an adult I have made numerous backpacking trips to the Cumberland Island National Sea Shore. One of the reasons I was drawn to that island was the creepy feeling that I was treading the ground described in the Flamingo Feather. I did extensive research to place Fort Caroline at the St Mary's River estuary. The St Mary's river provides the access to the great swamp the books describe. That would be the Okefenokee Swamp.
The Fort Caroline was captured and destroyed by the Spanish marching Overland from St Augistine. That fact is well known and is certain. The distance to the river of May in Florida at Jackonsville and the USNB at Mayport from St Augistine is much shorter and believable than to either Fernindina/Cumberland Island or the Altamatha River estuary.
I have no doubt there was a site discovered. I would doubt it is Ft Caroline. BTW, the Fort Caroline National Historical Park was established in 1966 on land given to the park service for the establishment of the park. There was nothing there that actually drew the park service.
actually they found remains of a Fort Caroline in South Carolina a few years ago...
It was triangular in shape...
we had a speaker at a Huguenot luncheon a few years ago who told us the history and had engravings from a book about it..
and there was a Huguenot fort in Florida..
If the Catholic Spaniards had not wiped out the Protestant French in Florida, we would be celebrating Thanksgiving based on that 50 years earlier colony...
The Spaniards killed the Huguenots at both forts..
BTW there was big doings last year in Florida for the 450th anniversary of the arrival of the Huguenots in Florida..
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And Florida had settlements long before that.
Isn’t Mexico part of North America?....Mexico has the ruins of fortified settlements dating back at least 6000 years
ST Johns, New Foundland was settled in 1497.
The Spanish had a Mission in the St. Catherine’s area here in Georgia in 1521. I have held (ok it was in a box and I held the box) an authenticated 1524 Spanish Coin found in Liberty Co, Ga about 20 years ago.
If interested in the topic, look up works by David Hurst Thomas. He found and excavated the Mission from the early 1500 and wrote a several books about it (I got him to sign them the same day as the coin).
The Georgia coast is full of history. This is just one more star.
No more troubling than the Jamestown Settlement which preceded Plymouth by 15 years.