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THE BIBLE'S AGE FOR THE EARTH
CreationMoments ^ | Feb 7, 2014 | CreationMoments et al

Posted on 02/07/2014 3:11:21 PM PST by fwdude

Genesis 1:1
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”

Just when was the “beginning” when God created the heavens and the earth, as spoken of in Genesis 1:1? In these days when scientists talk about “billions” of years, the question of what the Bible says on the matter of origins becomes even more important.

Archbishop James UssherFew people doubt that the Bible intends to teach that the creation is young. The genealogies of the Old Testament are actual reproductions of the calendar system used in most ancient times.

While the subject is very complicated, we can share with you the calculations done by some well-known Christians. You are probably familiar with Bishop Ussher’s calculation that creation took place in 4004 B.C. But did you know that no less than the great scientist Kepler calculated that creation took place in 3877? Martin Luther calculated that creation took place in 3961 B.C. The very oldest ages arrived at through calculations based on Scripture say the creation is about 7,500 years old.

For the Christian, the question of the age of the creation can only be answered on the basis of Scripture. There is no question that Scripture gives us more than enough information to conclude that the creation is young and that God wants us to know it. After that, it is simply a matter of whether we accept Scripture’s authority.

Prayer:
Dear Heavenly Father, help my thinking not to be conformed to this world, but help me to be transformed by Your renewing of my mind so that my faith in Your clear Word is unshakable. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Notes:
Painting: Archbishop James Ussher, painted by Peter Lely (1618–1680).


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution
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To: iowamark

And you are being ambiguous and unclear about what you are talking about.


41 posted on 02/07/2014 3:42:16 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Funny how this the article following yours on Freerepublic.

Scientists Find 800,000-Year-Old Footprints In UK


42 posted on 02/07/2014 3:42:34 PM PST by BushCountry (Obama: The dentist told me I need a crown. I was like I KNOW, RIGHT?)
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To: Frapster
"well - i want to discuss the issue of age. is that permissible? :)"

I take it your point is that if Adam was created as a fully mature man (or looked like one) then why couldn't the Universe have been created as a fully mature one with a 15 billion years worth of wear on the tires. (the "world in motion" theory). On the other hand, if Adam was born an infant who knows how long it took Man to mature in the pre-curse world. It could have been eons before he grew up and Woman was created. Interesting. Actually, this is a better place to put "the long pause" than proponents of the long pause theory put it.

43 posted on 02/07/2014 3:42:50 PM PST by circlecity
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To: fwdude

I am sorry but there is not one single statement in the Bible regarding the age of the earth. Calculations on the age of the earth are based upson conjecture and assumptions. We do not know the mind of God so we do not know that He wants us to know that the earth is young.

A lot of evil has come about in this world due to people knowing that they truly understand and know the mind of God, thus allowing them to make interpretations as to what is really meant in the scriptures.

I am a Christian and have read the Bible several times. Please keep in mind that the Bible was never intended to be a scientific document


44 posted on 02/07/2014 3:44:45 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: RetiredArmy

Do you believe in the Firmament? The invisible dome that separates the Earth and the heavenly ocean? If you take the Bible literally on the Creation story you must also believe in this.


45 posted on 02/07/2014 3:45:24 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

There was a heckuva lot of rain one day...you may have heard about it...


46 posted on 02/07/2014 3:48:10 PM PST by MarDav
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To: Psalm 73; Hostage
"Adam could very well have been in the Garden for a billion years."

Excellent point.

Although you would have to disbelieve the Bible to believe that (which is what this piece argues):

Genesis 5:3-5 (NIV):
"When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. Altogether, Adam live 930 years, and then he died."

47 posted on 02/07/2014 3:49:56 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: MarDav

Yes but I wasn’t there so it must not have happened. This is a popular “argument” on these threads lately.


48 posted on 02/07/2014 3:49:58 PM PST by DManA
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To: MarDav

God was gonna make rain a thousand days and drown ‘em right out...but Noah convinced him to let it rain just 40 days and wait for the sewers to back up.(from Bill Cosby’s “Noah”...(ding!)


49 posted on 02/07/2014 3:52:35 PM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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To: mdmathis6

Riiiiiiiiight.

Cosby’s wonderful.


50 posted on 02/07/2014 3:53:42 PM PST by DManA
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Christians often speak of things as if they are ABSOLUTELY true.

Yes, but when Christ said, "This is My Body" many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

51 posted on 02/07/2014 3:54:50 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: DoughtyOne
Not having been there, I don’t know for sure.

Was God there?

Did God inspire Scripture?

Does Scripture make unambiguous statements on the time line of creation (geneologies, statements, etc?)

52 posted on 02/07/2014 3:55:54 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Only those knuckle-dragging, embarrassing, fanatics in fly-over country believe in a young earth. Karl Sagan, Darwin, and Algore say the earth is billions and billions of years old. We who are enlightened, who grew up in the age of post-modernism, throw in our lot with the aforementioned luminaries.


53 posted on 02/07/2014 3:56:15 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: FatherofFive
Yes, but when Christ said, "This is My Body" many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

When Christ described himself as a door, did he mean that he was made of wood and had hinges?

54 posted on 02/07/2014 3:56:52 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
For a 6,000 year old Earth to be fact, the vast majority of scientists (believers and nonbelievers alike) engaged in the fields of geology, biology, archeology, chemistry, physics, cosmology, and thermodynamics would have to be participating in a massive global conspiracy to hide the truth about a Young Earth, with an airtight system to keep whistleblowers from revealing the conspiracy.

The accepted age of the Earth of 4.5 billion years according to science, and the Young Earth Creationist view of 6,000 years represents an order of magnitude difference of 750,000.

The question for the conspiracy theorists would be: Why 750,000? Why not fool mankind by a factor of 75,000, or 750, or 75?

55 posted on 02/07/2014 3:57:09 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: demshateGod

And only the Leftist Loonies think they know about a time they didn’t inhabit.


56 posted on 02/07/2014 3:57:36 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: DoughtyOne

150 years ago you would have just taken the Bible at face value.


57 posted on 02/07/2014 3:58:11 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: fwdude

“position of the Bible on the age of the Earth”

The Bible doesn’t take such a position. The 6,000 year figure was guessed at by a human.


58 posted on 02/07/2014 4:00:21 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: FatherofFive
"Yes, but when Christ said, "This is My Body" many don't believe the clear words of Scripture."

...........................

When Christ said, "I am the light of the world" (John 8:12) many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

When Christ said, "I am the door of the sheep"(John 10:7,9) many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

When Christ said, "I am the good shepherd" (John 10:11,14) many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

When Christ said, "I am the resurrection, and the life" (John 11:25) many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

When Christ said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6) many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

When Christ said, "I am the true vine" (John 15:1,5) many don't believe the clear words of Scripture.

59 posted on 02/07/2014 4:01:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: fwdude
Nicodemus had the same problem:

Hohn3:4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

60 posted on 02/07/2014 4:01:54 PM PST by DManA
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