Posted on 02/07/2014 3:11:21 PM PST by fwdude
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Just when was the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, as spoken of in Genesis 1:1? In these days when scientists talk about billions of years, the question of what the Bible says on the matter of origins becomes even more important.
Few people doubt that the Bible intends to teach that the creation is young. The genealogies of the Old Testament are actual reproductions of the calendar system used in most ancient times.
While the subject is very complicated, we can share with you the calculations done by some well-known Christians. You are probably familiar with Bishop Usshers calculation that creation took place in 4004 B.C. But did you know that no less than the great scientist Kepler calculated that creation took place in 3877? Martin Luther calculated that creation took place in 3961 B.C. The very oldest ages arrived at through calculations based on Scripture say the creation is about 7,500 years old.
For the Christian, the question of the age of the creation can only be answered on the basis of Scripture. There is no question that Scripture gives us more than enough information to conclude that the creation is young and that God wants us to know it. After that, it is simply a matter of whether we accept Scriptures authority.
Prayer:
Dear Heavenly Father, help my thinking not to be conformed to this world, but help me to be transformed by Your renewing of my mind so that my faith in Your clear Word is unshakable. In Jesus Name. Amen.
Notes:
Painting: Archbishop James Ussher, painted by Peter Lely (16181680).
It’s real simple. If you believe, then your Faith follows what the Bible says and you believe the Bible is 100% spot on. If one part of it you do not believe, then you are saying that God made a mistake. My God does not make mistakes. The Bible is 100% true because I believe in the death, burial and resurrection of my LORD Jesus Christ. I don’t worry about whether the earth is 6,000 days, six billion years, or whatever. God told me He created the earth. That was enough for me. He elected not to give us any greater details. One day in Heaven we will know all. I will worry about it then.
The fact remains that the Creation occurred sometime around 6000 years ago or perhaps 7500 years ago or even just 5900 years ago. We have it pinpointed within 1500 years or so.
On the other hand, the Evolutionists admit that they could be billions of years off on their guess.
No way! It's impolite to look into a woman's age!!!
Excellent point.
(One thing I am certain of, though - Jesus died for my sins, I accept Him as my savior, I will live with Him for eternity).
Give me that old time religion, it’s good enough for me!!!
It is not either / or. See:shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
“The fact”
Bzzzt. See my previous reply.
"There is no question that Scripture gives us more than enough information to conclude that the creation is young and that God wants us to know it. After that, it is simply a matter of whether we accept Scriptures authority."
Do you? Can you not and still claim to hold all the "beliefs" you claim to?
Less than one second.
A follow up: how old did he look?
He was created a man.....so it's assumed (doesn't ever say) he was probably fully formed, had a beard and was able to reproduce. In other words............he had no childhood.
Bingo!
The only reason it is important is so the Left can label Conservatives as stupid.
If you think about it, "age" was irrelevant to the original design because man was never created to die or, by implication, to even "age," with all of the deterioration that the word means to us.
Yes, I'll concede that I cannot control people going off on irrelevant tangents. It happens all the time on FR.
I'd like to know if the author asked anyone outside his congregation before making this determination.
Fair enough. But years existed, nevertheless - COUNTABLE years. So age existed, although it was irrelevant to Adam's original state.
That is hilariously ironic on (yet another) creationist post.
“In the beginning ... “
Is that in the beginning for God or just mankind? Clearly not for God because God always was and always will be. It could mean in the beginning for mankind as we know it.
I don’t believe God found it important for us to know every little detail. Was the world as we know it God’s first creation? I am not sure about that. I believe he created angels before he created man. God doesn’t find it necessary for us to know the exact details of all his creations.
I don’t fully understand all the details of creation but it does nothing to shake my faith that Jesus came to save the world. He was crucified and resurrected.
What part of, “there was evening and there was morning, the first day,” is ambiguous about the clear meaning of scripture?
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