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FIRST HE WALKS OUT OF THE PRESIDENT’S MAJOR SPEECH – NOW HE’S THINKING ABOUT FILING IMPEACHMENT
The Blaze ^ | 1/29/14 | Becket Adams

Posted on 01/29/2014 3:51:47 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

Just hours after he stormed out of President Obama’s State of the Union address Tuesday, Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) announced he’s considering filing articles of impeachment against the president.

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To: LyinLibs

Soros, Koch brothers. Ying and Yang. Every administration has a sugar daddy, often several. In the Clinton Administration it was Richard Mellon Scaife who caused indigestion in the East wing, and to a slightly lesser degree, in the West wing.


61 posted on 01/29/2014 4:32:07 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Meets with Putin somewhat secretly..

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Though the group of five House members had been scheduled to meet with Vladimir Putin,
the Russian President canceled because of meetings in Davos, Stockman said.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/26/Stockman-Details-Travels-Rips-Media


62 posted on 01/29/2014 4:32:47 PM PST by deport
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To: RobbyS

Let me speak more clearly, a House impeachment is tantamount to an indictment for trial in the Senate. The actual trial occurs in the Senate with the Chief Justice presiding.


63 posted on 01/29/2014 4:33:12 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Impeachment is a political act. High crimes have nothing to do with it. If they did, FDR would have gone to jail for confiscating US citizen's gold.

If his approval rating falls under 30 this year and the republicans make great gains in both houses, it is possible. Of course if his rating falls under 30 they should make great gains.

So who are the true believers holding him up? I give him the vast majority of the blacks, maybe 9% of the population, total. GLAD crowd makes another 1%. Moslems 2%. Laborites/socialists/communists/occupiers/community activists/college faculty/media types/assorted committed lefties another 5%. Three quarters of the hispanics gives him another 12%. That's 29% right there.

64 posted on 01/29/2014 4:33:14 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: RoosterRedux

What would be glorious would be if Stockman filed the Impeachment papers as a Congressman, then got to actually Impeach as a Senator!


65 posted on 01/29/2014 4:33:38 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: fso301
Sounds like a fundraising stunt. He knows how much the guy from South Carolina raised after yelling “You Lie!” during an earlier SOTU address.

Reading some of the asinine posts on this thread I wouldn't blame Stockman if he didn't say another word.

66 posted on 01/29/2014 4:35:28 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Gritty
It's fruitless conversation to even be discussing impeachment. Even if it could be done with the Senate...not enough time before he's out anyway and they could very easily stall the whole thing,and would!...so it stops nothing.

The real question IS who has power and using it to their advantage, and who is not using theirs?


67 posted on 01/29/2014 4:35:53 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
It's fruitless conversation to even be discussing impeachment.

Amen brother. It's so far removed from reality it's a waste of time.

68 posted on 01/29/2014 4:37:38 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: FreeReign

....”How you think articulating the point is a “waste of time” is beyond me”....

Perhaps it is.


69 posted on 01/29/2014 4:38:29 PM PST by caww
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To: ConservativeMan55

Thanks! PHEW - I’d hate to see her get away with this shite.


70 posted on 01/29/2014 4:39:26 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: caww
It's fruitless conversation to even be discussing impeachment.

Yeah lets all not utter the word impeachment. What possible benefit could their be for doing it.

Unbelievable.

71 posted on 01/29/2014 4:40:03 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: RobbyS
From Cornell Law "Backgrounder on Impeachment"
Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5--"The House of Representatives . . . shall have the sole power of impeachment."

The power of impeachment translates into the power to indict. The House, through the Judiciary Committee, conducts investigation and gathers evidence. At the proper time, the House assembles the evidence into individual indictments or charges known as Articles of Impeachment. Each article requires a majority vote of the House to pass to the Senate. Once impeached, the officer is on trial.

Article 1, Section 3, Clause 6--"The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments.

When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present."

The trial of the impeached officer is held in the Senate. In Nixon v. US, regarding the impeachment trial of a Federal judge, the Supreme Court ruled that the application of the phrase phrase "sole power to try all impeachments" to a particular case was not justiciable. In other words it held that the proper application of this constitutional language to a specific impeachment proceeding was not a question for the courts. Therefore, the process and procedure for impeachment lie solely within the purview of the legislature. The officer subject to an impeachment proceeding has no appeal to a federal court.

Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7--"Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law."

An impeachment and removal does not activate the double jeopardy clause of the Fifth Amendment. The ex-officer may face criminal indictments and trials for the same conduct that led to their impeachment and removal from office.


72 posted on 01/29/2014 4:41:03 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: ConservativeMan55
You’re right the Senate, as it is presently composed, would not convict. But once we’ve retaken the Senate, which we will, maybe we can get some traction on that side!!

With every day that passes this administration is making congress less and less relevant, in one hearing I think it was Trey Goudy that said that the electorate will conclude that this body is not bound by law and neither are they.

The longer the House waits to act the less likely it is that they will be effective in any action they do take. They are clueless to how quickly their power is evaporating.

73 posted on 01/29/2014 4:41:17 PM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: FreeReign

No I don’t in this case since it is wishy-washy. If he had said “I WILL file ...” then that would have been OK. However after 5 years of Obama the time for “considering” impeachment is long gone.

Reminds me of the line from Tuco in the Good the Bad and the Ugly. When you need to shoot, shoot, don’t talk. :-)


74 posted on 01/29/2014 4:42:50 PM PST by plain talk
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To: ConservativeMan55

This is the same Rep that Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo have been working with to bring the birth document forgery and SSID theft evidence to the congress.


75 posted on 01/29/2014 4:43:30 PM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: caww

Perhaps people should do the right thing.

I know, a silly thought.


76 posted on 01/29/2014 4:43:40 PM PST by dforest
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To: Lumper20
"Better late then never."

Better Never Late!  /s

77 posted on 01/29/2014 4:43:55 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: RoosterRedux

My point being, that the rules of evidence do not apply in an impeachment case. If a House wanted to, a majority could impeach any president whom they think has substantially exceeded his constitutional authority. Just as the Radicals did Andrew Johnson. The check on this power is that a two-thirds majority in the Senate is needed to remove, which in practice means that the public has abandoned the President. Looking back, it is too bad that Johnson wasn’t removed, because then we wouldn’t have had to worry about “progressive” Presidents.


78 posted on 01/29/2014 4:45:28 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: nascarnation

My gosh Impeaching Clinton didn’t accomplish anything whatsoever...and he remains a star and greatly honored....not to mention his wife will likely run for President and this without blinking an eye over her husbands past.

Politics today is all about who has the money and the heavy hitters willing to support them. It has nothing at all to do with the Integrity of the Individual. It’s a win or loose deal and even that is fully corrupted.

Impeachment is simply another word being thrown around with no intention nor power behind it...and it’s ridiculous to entertain the idea outside of politicians looking for theatrical gain.


79 posted on 01/29/2014 4:45:38 PM PST by caww
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To: ConservativeMan55

Impeachment would be a waste of time. As terrible as Obama is, and he’s the worst occupant of our White House in America’s history, Obama will not be removed from office by a Senate filled with Democrats. We should focus instead on stopping Obama from doing any more damage, rather than giving the media an excuse to pretend that an inept, drug-addled loser is actually a sympathetic and persecuted figure.


80 posted on 01/29/2014 4:46:32 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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