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As P.T Barnum said there's "Sucker born every minute"
1 posted on 12/18/2013 8:57:00 PM PST by artichokegrower
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Big Pharm is just going after the 30 billion dollar market and trying to use the FDA as there personal guild thugs.


2 posted on 12/18/2013 8:58:22 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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The Big Pharma monolith is on the anti-vitamin warpath.


4 posted on 12/18/2013 8:58:58 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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“We believe that the case is closed — supplementing the diet of well-nourished adults with (most) mineral or vitamin supplements has no clear benefit and might even be harmful,”

Key word there is “well-nourished”.


5 posted on 12/18/2013 9:00:49 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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Vitamin fortified unrine is good for the fish and gives your kidneys a good baseline of operation. Liver too!

As for any health benefit to the person of good diet and overall health, vitamins are just expensive colored urine.

6 posted on 12/18/2013 9:02:20 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Oh well, Big Pharma to the rescue...

sniff, sniff...(the author)


8 posted on 12/18/2013 9:06:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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""What will protect you is if you spend the money on fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, low fat dairy, things like that," Miller tells"

This dude obviously has not eaten any fresh fruits or vegetables lately. Sure they look pretty and are perfect but they taste like cardboard. I wasn't aware that fruit picked when they're still green have their full nutritional value. then there's GMO foods. Are they as nutritious as their original source??

How much is Hopkins receiving from obama?

10 posted on 12/18/2013 9:13:41 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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Course these are the same agenda-driven half-wits that conduct studies whose data indicate salt won’t hurt you, then claim in the report it’s deadly, so YMMV.....


11 posted on 12/18/2013 9:14:34 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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I probably spend a total of $100/year for supplements which I purchase from Costco. That covers a multi-vitamin, Glucosamine-Chondroitin, a supplement that includes a number of other things, and saw palmetto.

Only thing I don’t get at Costco is DHEA - 50 mg/day.

This stuff does work, and if I don’t take them for a couple of weeks, I really notice it.

No one is getting rich off of me in this area.

I’m 60 and in excellent health.


12 posted on 12/18/2013 9:15:45 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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I think the study results are being distorted.

There are real benefits to certain vitamins and supplements, even if wholesale use of multivitamins will not prevent cancer or heart disease.

Where I live there is a real shortage of vitamin D. Niacinamide can help with arthritis. Vitamins and supplements have there place in modern health, but are not a magic solution.

13 posted on 12/18/2013 9:16:03 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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As P.T Barnum said there's "Sucker born every minute"

Yup it's sad how dumbed-down we've become as a society.

15 posted on 12/18/2013 9:17:52 PM PST by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks - literally or metaphorically, you decide.)
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I have never been able to detect the slightest benefit from taking multivitamins. It appears money spent on them quite literally is down the toilet.


19 posted on 12/18/2013 9:32:09 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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Multi-vitamins are indeed almost useless because the amounts of the active ingredients are insufficient to accomplish specific nutritional objectives. Virtually all Americans are deficient in B vitamins, vitamin d3 and omega 3. Countless properly structured studies have validated the benefits of supplementation with substantially higher dosages than occur in a multi-vitamin. 12% of our 20k genes are switched on or of by vitamin d3. Omega 3 has prevented 40% of sudden cardiac deaths in a well structured study of at risk humans.
B vitamins are essential for normal brain functions.


22 posted on 12/18/2013 9:38:46 PM PST by kruss3
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Besides *vitamins* - there’s **herbs** and OTHER such supplements - that do VERY MUCH GOOD.

Just PROVEN - sorry, big pharma.

(Take a listen to 1st hour of www.CoasttoCoastAM last night - yes ~

LAST SHOW RECAP : In the first hour, Dr. Joel Wallach reacted to the recent study which claims that vitamins provide no memory or heart benefits.


24 posted on 12/18/2013 9:47:19 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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The only exceptions are folic acid for pregnant women and, possibly, vitamin D — the studies are mixed on its benefits and risks. <<

It’s a closed book, except...

They don’t spend money on these studies. They spend money on drug studies.

The exceptions per the Linus Pauling Institute...

Women of childbearing age (folate, vitamin D, iron)
Pregnant and lactating women (vitamin B6, folate, vitamin D, iron)
People who consume <1,200 cal/day (multiple micronutrients)
Obese individuals (multiple micronutrients)
Infants, children, and adolescents (vitamin D)
People with dark-colored skin (vitamin D)
Those who cover all exposed skin or using sunscreen whenever outside (vitamin D)
Older adults (vitamin B12, vitamin D, zinc)
Low socioeconomic status (multiple micronutrients)
Patients who have had bariatric surgery (multiple micronutrients)
Patients with fat malabsorption syndromes (fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K)
Alcoholics (vitamin A, B vitamins)
Smokers (vitamins C and E)
Vegans and those with limited intake of animal products (vitamin B12, vitamin D, calcium)
People taking medications that interfere with the absorption and/or metabolism of certain micronutrients (e.g., proton pump inhibitors used to treat heartburn may impair vitamin B12 absorption (36); frequent aspirin use can lower vitamin C status (37)).
People whose diets are not adherent to the USDA food plate (formerly food pyramid)—the vast majority of Americans (multiple micronutrients)

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/multivitamin-mineral.html

It’s a little more rigorous list.

DK


25 posted on 12/18/2013 9:48:01 PM PST by Dark Knight
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Not to worry.

Wait ten years and there will be a new study issued with the exact opposite conclusion.

That’s how science is.


29 posted on 12/18/2013 9:55:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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The study was no good. Too many people quit the study.


30 posted on 12/18/2013 9:56:06 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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Has nothing to do with vitamins, and everything to do with expanding FDA control.

Yes, proper diet is the best way to get vitamins. Tens of million people live alone in this nation. They don’t eat diverse meals. They do need supplements.

One brain-trust trashing vitamins today had this to say...

“These vitamins are a waste of time. What with a diversified source of foods, and fortified milk, folks don’t need vitamin supplements”

Unwittingly he had just endorsed vitamin additives in milk.

These guys are lying their asses off.

Vitamin supplements are important as long as people don’t go nuts with them.

And for the record, food is great, but people also go nuts overeating too.


32 posted on 12/18/2013 9:59:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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Big Drugs has always been against vitamins. Always. They want people sick so the can get wealthy off them.


33 posted on 12/18/2013 9:59:36 PM PST by chessplayer
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I just know there are a few vitamins that help me quite a lot. One being vitamin D.


34 posted on 12/18/2013 10:01:43 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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Doesn’t matter.
If I want to spend the money, that is my business.


41 posted on 12/18/2013 10:16:52 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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