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Is Putin One of Us?
CNSNews.com ^ | DEc 17, 2013 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 12/17/2013 9:58:01 AM PST by Neoliberalnot

With America clearly in mind, Putin declared, "In many countries today, moral and ethical norms are being reconsidered."

"They're now requiring not only the proper acknowledgment of freedom of conscience, political views and private life, but also the mandatory acknowledgment of the equality of good and evil."

Translation: While privacy and freedom of thought, religion and speech are cherished rights, to equate traditional marriage and same-sex marriage is to equate good with evil.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: civilization; culture; kgbputin; kgbputinfanclub; oneworlders; putin; putinbuttkissers; putindefenders; traditions
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To: gdani

Do we see Putin siding with foreign countries against Russians, no. Bo sided with Mexico against the US citizens of Az. I am not asking that Putin be president here, but he is a far superior leader compared to the blacktrash currently in our WH. Don’t over interpret the point of the article.


81 posted on 12/17/2013 4:53:33 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: FredZarguna

Ask what we hear from Bo? What has he done to help America. Does he do anything but insult American achievement, ridicule the accomplishments of past heroes, undermine our standing in the world, undermine our military, swindle the taxpayers, and so goes the endless list of the worst enemy free Americans have ever encountered.


82 posted on 12/17/2013 4:57:03 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Here is the deal. Putin is not a threat to US citizens.

Of course he is. Russia supplies arms to our enemies. Arms that have killed Americans or threaten to kill Americans.

83 posted on 12/17/2013 5:11:24 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Neoliberalnot
FReepers don't have any illusions about Zero. Apparently, altogether too many do have illusions about Putin.
84 posted on 12/17/2013 5:16:24 PM PST by FredZarguna (Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?)
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To: ETL; Neoliberalnot
Here is the deal. Putin is not a threat to US citizens.

Right. Doing everything but personally spinning the Iranian centrifuges by hand will never be a threat to US citizens.

85 posted on 12/17/2013 5:18:34 PM PST by FredZarguna (Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?)
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To: FredZarguna

The Russians also supported Iraq under Saddam Hussein, militarily and with intel, even after the 2nd war began. They moved a stockpile of weapons out of Iraq and into Syria just prior to it beginning.


86 posted on 12/17/2013 5:38:35 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FredZarguna
FReepers don't have any illusions about Zero. Apparently, altogether too many do have illusions about Putin.

Weird, ain't it? That's why these Putin butt kissers bug me so much. They've helped to convince people here that Pooty Poo is a great friend and ally of ours. And of course 'not a threat to anyone here' as some jerk here recently said.

87 posted on 12/17/2013 5:50:10 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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“Former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for International Technology Security John A. Shaw who was responsible for tracking Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs before and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, stated in October 2004, March 2005, and again in February 2006 that it was the Russians who helped Saddam Hussein to “clean up” his weapons of mass destruction stockpiles “to prevent the United States from discovering them.” [13] In particular, on 18 February 2006, Shaw told a conference at The Intelligence Summit in Alexandria, Virginia, that “The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went” to Syria and the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon, Kenneth R. Timmerman reported 19 February 2006, in NewsMax.

“They were moved by Russian Spetsnaz (special forces) units out of uniform, that were specifically sent to Iraq to move the weaponry and eradicate any evidence of its existence,” Shaw said. After accusing Russian GRU of helping Saddam to remove his WMD, Shaw was asked to resign for “exceeding his authority” in disclosing the information, a charge he called “specious.”

Shaw was forced out of office when his position was eliminated on 10 December 2004.[8], [9]. Shaw stated that he went public with his comments regarding Russia moving Iraq’s WMD when he did to help George W. Bush who he felt was being “crucified” by the revelations that over 350 tons of explosives had gone missing in Iraq as a result of the U.S. invasion [10]. He said “If I had not had the openly hostile environment in [Pentagon public affairs], I would have moved the story differently. Getting the truth out instantly was more important than process.” American Neoconservative commentators have also accused Russia of suppling weapons to the Iraqi insurgents including the AK-47 Assault Rifle. Most of the insurgents use Russian weapons.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq%E2%80%93Russia_relations


88 posted on 12/17/2013 6:12:45 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Neoliberalnot

yes he is..but their are big forces and foreign ones behind Obama.


89 posted on 12/17/2013 7:12:36 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: FredZarguna

Yep billions in trade between partners is certain twaddle.

Fred, guy, get a grip.

D1


90 posted on 12/17/2013 9:57:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: FredZarguna

Fred, you over interpret the point of the post. Nobody wants Putin for president, but he appears to have more value in his character than the Marxist pig we have. Bo is the bigger threat, by far.


91 posted on 12/18/2013 3:42:40 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: FredZarguna

There isn’t going to be any nuclear exchange. Relax. Reread Buch’s article.


92 posted on 12/18/2013 3:50:29 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: gdani

And thank you. Geez! Where do people get the idea they’d want Putin as president?


93 posted on 12/18/2013 3:51:00 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: ETL

Not aware that the Russians assisted with the movement of WMDs, but I do have a good friend who was a member of the UN inspection team, making some 39 trips to Iraq in the 90s. He stated with no uncertainty, that Hussein I, did indeed possess WMDs, but they were moved to Syria. Most of us know this in spite of the old media lying to the public. My Col friend stated the decision was made to let it go to avoid war with Syria.


94 posted on 12/18/2013 3:59:25 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
“On April 5th, CENTCOM reported spotting a large column of Iraqi vehicles, and braced for a possible counterattack. Rather than race south to certain defeat and death, the column slipped into Syria. Russian intelligence reports reiterate this event as do Lebanese sources. Mainstream media reports only confirm the convoy’s sighting. Allegedly the convoy included Russian-made mobile rocket launchers some with chemical weapons.

The exodus from Iraq to Syria by Saddam’s allies and the highest ranking members of Saddam’s regime didn’t end on April 9th, but it was fully brought to the attention of the world when American Special Forces intercepted a Russian convoy headed into Syria. The Russians said that the convoy was on a diplomatic mission following a convoy that carried Primakov himself. To this day no one knows for sure. Some reports claim that Primakov’s convoy carried Russian WMD people, documents, and equipment that could not be left to fall into the hands of the Coalition.

The contents of the convoy that American commandos attacked remain classified, but former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology and security, John A Shaw, reports that American intelligence has documents confirming that Saddam’s Regime paid Russia to provide security forces for Iraq’s Russian-made arms and paid Russia to conduct counterintelligence activities that would prevent the Coalition from discovering the illegal arms supply line from Russia through Syria.

“An Arabic-language report obtained by U.S. intelligence disclosed the extent of Russian armaments. The 26-page report was written by Abdul Tawab Mullah al Huwaysh, Saddam’s minister of military industrialization, who was captured by U.S. forces May 2, 2003.” Other intelligence officials confirm the possession of these documents and more. “The materials outlined in the documents included missile components, MiG jet parts, tank parts and chemicals used to make chemical weapons, the official said.”

One wonders how differently the war in Iraq would look if American commandos had been able to seize elusive WMD and present it to the world? As more and more captured documents are being released every day, why not present these documents as well? That answer will come later.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1853813/posts

95 posted on 12/18/2013 4:53:28 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Vlad is rugged a veritable outdoorsman.

Barry is a scrawny girleyman who tosses a ball like my Aunt Minnie.

Vlad believes homosexuality is an evil that under law may not attempt to recruit children.

Barry likes sodomites so much that he has included many in his government.

Vlad believes the Christian Church is important to the life of his country.

Barry believes in a holiday tree.


96 posted on 12/18/2013 5:23:22 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: ETL
continuing on the Russia moved Saddam's WMDs into Syria by truck convoy...

June 29, 2006:

Iraq's WMDs: The Russian Connection
Rod D. Martin

"Every senior member of a Western,
European, or Asian intelligence service
whom I have ever met all agree that the Russians
moved the last of the WMDs out of Iraq in
the last few months before the war."
John Loftus

Senator Rick Santorum's announcement last week of over 500 weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq went largely ignored by the mainstream media.

The National Ground Intelligence Center's newly-declassified report proves conclusively that Saddam Hussein lied — and George Bush and Bill Clinton told the truth — about Iraq's WMDs. This doesn't square, of course, with the media's mantra that "Bush lied, kids died," so they gave it short shrift.

But 500 hidden sarin, nerve and VX weapons is no small thing: it's one of the world's major chemical weapons arsenals. Its presence completely vindicates George Bush and Tony Blair. Though unreported, it's obviously major news.

Yet there's an even bigger story. And you probably haven't heard it either.

Earlier this year, some of America's top counter-terrorism and national security experts gathered for their 2006 Intelligence Summit. There, UN weapons inspector Bill Tierney provided a first-ever translation of captured tapes featuring Saddam Hussein and his lieutenants discussing — you guessed it — WMDs.

One tape features Saddam and Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz discussing the ease with which Iraq could conduct — and arrange for a third party (presumably al Qaeda) to carry out — a biological weapons attack against America in such a way that "they wouldn't finger us."

Others detail Iraq's success in hiding its rockets and its chemical weapons factories from UN inspectors. Saddam himself makes clear — as the Duelfer Report later asserted — that his program, far from dormant, would crank into full gear as soon as sanctions were lifted.

Most important: the tapes conclusively establish that Saddam had no intention of destroying his WMDs after the Gulf War — just as the NGIC report now proves.

But Saddam clearly had far more than the 500 older WMDs the NGIC found. So where did they go?

John Shaw, Deputy Undersecretary of Defense just before and after Iraq's liberation, answered:

"[T]hey went to Syria and Lebanon."

According to Shaw, the WMDs "were moved by Russian Spetsnaz [special forces] out of uniform, that were specifically sent to Iraq to move the weaponry and eradicate any evidence of its existence."

Shaw was one of the first to learn of the countless (universally confirmed) Iraqi truck convoys crossing the Syrian border (and returning empty) in the run-up to the war. At the summit, he detailed how former Russian intelligence head and KGB general Yevgeni Primakov came to Iraq in December 2002 — the same month Israel's Mossad first detected the operation — to supervise the WMDs' removal. Primakov's orders were "to erase all trace" of Russia's extensive, long-term involvement in Saddam's WMD programs.

This revelation confirms what National Geospatial Intelligence Agency head Lt. General James Clapper, WMD inspector David Kay, former Justice Department official John Loftus, top Israeli General Moshe Yaalon, this author, and a host of other experts have insisted for more than three years.

Two former Iraqi generals corroborate Shaw's account as well. General Georges Sada, author of Saddam's Secrets and former second-in-command of the Iraqi air force, and General Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti, the notorious "Butcher of Basra," have separately confirmed that Iraq possessed significant chemical and biological weapons stockpiles, transported them across the Syrian border by truck and plane beginning in late 2002, and did so with Russian assistance.

Indeed, as John Loftus put it, "Every senior member of a Western, European, or Asian intelligence service whom I have ever met all agree that the Russians moved the last of the WMDs out of Iraq in the last few months before the war. ..." (continues at link)

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/martin/060629

97 posted on 12/18/2013 5:36:51 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: IbJensen

So all it takes for you to drool over someone is them being “manly”, “rugged”, and anti-homosexual? That could describe every male gang leader in the world. You need to see past that and look into his dark KGB agent soul. The part about him embracing Christians is ridiculous.


98 posted on 12/18/2013 5:52:44 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

You’re right, ETL.

Obama is the epitome of manliness and morality.

Who in the hell is drooling?

You need to see past the joker-type smile that’s flashes like a neon sign on your man. Read a little REAL news and you’ll discover that the Church and the government are getting along just fine in today’s Russia.

Of course the head man is an ex-KGB thug, but your man isn’t ‘ex’ anything. He’s always been a fruitcake, anti-American cretin!

You may be stumbling over that anti-homosexual hangup with the Russian government. Your man is jabbing his finger in Putin’s eye by sending Billy Jean Lesbian over to represent your country in Russia.

Have a Merry Christmas anyway you animal.


99 posted on 12/18/2013 8:34:00 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Are you really that friggin stupid to think I support Obama? You didn’t just get here yesterday.

And you WERE drooling over pooty poo, so to speak, when you wrote:

“Vlad is a much more of a MAN”

“Vlad is rugged, a veritable outdoorsman.”


100 posted on 12/18/2013 8:43:31 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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