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Are True Conservatives A Minority In America?
Political Realities ^ | 12/13/13 | LD Jackson

Posted on 12/13/2013 3:37:52 AM PST by LD Jackson

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1 posted on 12/13/2013 3:37:52 AM PST by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

The system corrupts them faster than we can vote them out.


2 posted on 12/13/2013 3:47:47 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: LD Jackson

Sometimes doing the right thing is just unpopular.


3 posted on 12/13/2013 3:48:21 AM PST by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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To: LD Jackson

No, I believe real conservatives are only a minority in Government. The House RINOs that forced this through are way out of touch with their base. They’ve attacked the base, raised taxes (remember what happened to Bush #1 with “read my lips, no new taxes”), and challenged the tea party to form an opposition party by forcing this through. Since when do Republicans force through major legislation in two days that raises taxes and grows government without allowing the public to digest and debate? Sounds like a desperate move out of the Dem playbook, designed to hide consequences from its base. If you told me 4 years ago that the Rs in the house would do this, I’d have said you were nuts. Unbelievable and in need of a real response from us in the base.

Glenn Reynolds said it best yesterday – “You can try and defend this deal, but Boehner’s gratuitous Tea Party-bashing won’t help the GOP win next year. A lot of Tea Party folks stayed home in 2012 because the GOP establishment made clear it didn’t like them. That makes all this talk about the need to win elections ring a bit hollow.”


4 posted on 12/13/2013 3:48:47 AM PST by Nicojones
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To: LD Jackson

I would say yes to the question. It’s a rare bird who doesn’t have a pet exemption or tax credit that they want preserved. Cut everyone’s pork except mine. A good example is ethanol. Most midwest farmers are conservative - until you start talking about doing away with ethanol exemptions and credits at which point they start squealing like those hogs they used to raise before ethanol became so profitable. There are plenty more examples. Pick your favorite :)


5 posted on 12/13/2013 3:49:08 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: LD Jackson

If the Republicans want to win elections, they are going to have to represent the conservative values of those who elect them. This bending over backwards to appease liberal Democrats once they get elected is killing them.

Who says the shut-down was a loss for conservatives? It was a brilliant strategy abandoned in mid-battle by those who are supposed to represent us. I don’t want gutless wonders who throw up the white flags of surrender every time the MSM criticizes them. I want more Ted Cruzes.

I have stopped donating to the Republican party and its subsidiaries. Perhaps I should write to them to let them know why. It is for the opposite reason they think—it is *not* because I agree with MSM criticisms. I stopped donating because I don’t like their caving in the face of such criticism.


6 posted on 12/13/2013 3:51:49 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: LD Jackson
Hell, true conservatives are a minority in the Republican Party, e.g.:
Amash of Michigan Amendment No. 100 (reining in NSA abuse)
Republican  94 Yes, 134 No, 6 Not Voting
Democratic 111 Yes,  83 No, 6 Not Voting

7 posted on 12/13/2013 3:52:24 AM PST by kobald
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Republicans will face intense pressure over unemployment benefits
BY GREG SARGENT
December 11 at 12:24 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/12/11/republicans-will-face-intense-pressure-over-unemployment-benefits/

[snip] The imminent expiration of the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program for 1.3 million Americans is mostly being treated as a fait accompli in Washington... (Dems have created an interactive map showing how many people in each state stand to lose benefits.)... This strategy includes placing Op ed pieces by Democrats in papers that serve the districts of top Republicans, such as this one by Rep. Sander Levin in the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, the largest paper in John Boehner’s home state. The game plan is granular: One Democrat points out to me that stats are available on how many would lose benefits on the county level, and that Dems are trying to push these numbers into the coverage, because it is tangible for people in local communities. [/snip]


8 posted on 12/13/2013 3:55:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: LD Jackson

In politics, yes, in society, no.


9 posted on 12/13/2013 3:56:34 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: LD Jackson

Are True Conservatives A Minority In America?
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Nope, they comprise 58% of the electorate, which is why the GOP cannot win without them.


10 posted on 12/13/2013 4:04:39 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Biggirl

During his speech in Detroit this week Rand Paul spoke of term limits. He said that the pressure to do the wrong thing is incredible and that eventually every man will get worn down.


11 posted on 12/13/2013 4:12:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LD Jackson

Though I believe that if am a “true” conservative, it is very difficult to be one in practice today with the different levels of government here in the USA having their collectivist hands stuffed two yards deep into every facet of our business and personal lives.

Doctors are forced to accept Medicare/Medicaid patients or they cannot get surgical privileges at hospitals. Wall Street and banking are addicted to welfare as badly as any crackhead baby mama, and the regulatory schemes distort markets and strategy. A cabal of Unions, Environmentalists, and a partnership of safety nannies by the Insurance industry and the government have controlled how cars are designed for the last 50 years, and our regulated media make the auto companies seem like the problem. State and local zoning and environmental regulations make expanding the physical plant of about any business super expensive and in many cases impossible. This is fascism and tyranny.

The GOP primaries in 2014 will tell the future of the USA (and the GOP). I


12 posted on 12/13/2013 4:13:34 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: LD Jackson
"I fully understand the point behind this budget deal. I realize we are in a position of limited power and can only accomplish so much. That was never more on display than it was during the fight to defund ObamaCare. I am pragmatic enough to realize how that strategy failed and how we have to look forward to the 2014 elections and beyond. At the same time, I find myself wanting to make sure the Republican Party does not give away their entire soul and body, just for the chance to regain it in 2014."

I too understand why the GOPe have done this, to put aside issues that may tarnish the Republican name brand and focus on the elections in 2014. But I don't view the government shutdown as a failure. We saw conservatives who were willing to fight for the Constitution and our Republic. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee came out heroes, which Boehner doesn't like.

I don't think going Democrat and giving in to Trillion dollar budgets and put reductions off for later is consistent with a true conservative ideology. Boehner only wants to help junior RINOs get elected and into positions of power - not to save the Republic, increase Republican presence in his "Ruling Class".

13 posted on 12/13/2013 4:16:07 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: LD Jackson

America is CONSERVATIVE and AMERICA is not represented in DC.


14 posted on 12/13/2013 4:24:13 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Biggirl

“In politics, yes, in society, no.”
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You are viewing only in your small circle.
Marxist education and Marxist media are what is destroying America.
America will never be the country that I grew up in, from 1944 to 1980.
I now live in a totally new life on the other side of the world, and at age 69 I am as happy as a clam.


15 posted on 12/13/2013 4:24:30 AM PST by AlexW
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To: LD Jackson

No we are a majority being tortured by the minority


16 posted on 12/13/2013 4:25:28 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: noprogs
The GOP primaries in 2014 will tell the future of the USA (and the GOP).

Sorry, I am more pessimistic - I think we are seeing the future now. Unfortunately, I think it is too late. I still hope for the best and prepare for the worst. The future is economic collapse I think is a certainty at this point - it is only a matter time.

17 posted on 12/13/2013 4:25:59 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Have you ever heard of the saying, “if at age 20 you are a CONSERVATIVE, you have NO HEART, if at age 40 you are a LIBERAL, you have NO BRAIN?”

Translation: As you get older, IT IS EXPECTED that you WILL become A LOT LESS LIBERAL . That is REALITY.


18 posted on 12/13/2013 4:31:43 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Nicojones
"No, I believe real conservatives are only a minority in Government."

DITTOS! ! ! !

19 posted on 12/13/2013 4:32:04 AM PST by DeaconRed (I love you Granddaddy: The most beautiful words ever spoken.)
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To: LD Jackson

I think you are defining tactics with targets.

“True conservative,” to me, is a target. It refers to the policy mix. For example, a strong national defense, a free-market economy, returning domestic policies to the states, and promoting traditional social values.

How we get there, given that the Republicans control only one of the two houses of the Congress, is a different question. Should we use the power we actually have to (1) force the other side to accept our positions by shutting down the government or (2) work with the other side to get a fair compromise position.


20 posted on 12/13/2013 4:35:28 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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