The system corrupts them faster than we can vote them out.
Sometimes doing the right thing is just unpopular.
No, I believe real conservatives are only a minority in Government. The House RINOs that forced this through are way out of touch with their base. They’ve attacked the base, raised taxes (remember what happened to Bush #1 with “read my lips, no new taxes”), and challenged the tea party to form an opposition party by forcing this through. Since when do Republicans force through major legislation in two days that raises taxes and grows government without allowing the public to digest and debate? Sounds like a desperate move out of the Dem playbook, designed to hide consequences from its base. If you told me 4 years ago that the Rs in the house would do this, I’d have said you were nuts. Unbelievable and in need of a real response from us in the base.
Glenn Reynolds said it best yesterday – “You can try and defend this deal, but Boehner’s gratuitous Tea Party-bashing won’t help the GOP win next year. A lot of Tea Party folks stayed home in 2012 because the GOP establishment made clear it didn’t like them. That makes all this talk about the need to win elections ring a bit hollow.”
I would say yes to the question. It’s a rare bird who doesn’t have a pet exemption or tax credit that they want preserved. Cut everyone’s pork except mine. A good example is ethanol. Most midwest farmers are conservative - until you start talking about doing away with ethanol exemptions and credits at which point they start squealing like those hogs they used to raise before ethanol became so profitable. There are plenty more examples. Pick your favorite :)
If the Republicans want to win elections, they are going to have to represent the conservative values of those who elect them. This bending over backwards to appease liberal Democrats once they get elected is killing them.
Who says the shut-down was a loss for conservatives? It was a brilliant strategy abandoned in mid-battle by those who are supposed to represent us. I don’t want gutless wonders who throw up the white flags of surrender every time the MSM criticizes them. I want more Ted Cruzes.
I have stopped donating to the Republican party and its subsidiaries. Perhaps I should write to them to let them know why. It is for the opposite reason they think—it is *not* because I agree with MSM criticisms. I stopped donating because I don’t like their caving in the face of such criticism.
Amash of Michigan Amendment No. 100 (reining in NSA abuse)
Republican 94 Yes, 134 No, 6 Not Voting
Democratic 111 Yes, 83 No, 6 Not Voting
In politics, yes, in society, no.
Are True Conservatives A Minority In America?
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Nope, they comprise 58% of the electorate, which is why the GOP cannot win without them.
Though I believe that if am a “true” conservative, it is very difficult to be one in practice today with the different levels of government here in the USA having their collectivist hands stuffed two yards deep into every facet of our business and personal lives.
Doctors are forced to accept Medicare/Medicaid patients or they cannot get surgical privileges at hospitals. Wall Street and banking are addicted to welfare as badly as any crackhead baby mama, and the regulatory schemes distort markets and strategy. A cabal of Unions, Environmentalists, and a partnership of safety nannies by the Insurance industry and the government have controlled how cars are designed for the last 50 years, and our regulated media make the auto companies seem like the problem. State and local zoning and environmental regulations make expanding the physical plant of about any business super expensive and in many cases impossible. This is fascism and tyranny.
The GOP primaries in 2014 will tell the future of the USA (and the GOP). I
I too understand why the GOPe have done this, to put aside issues that may tarnish the Republican name brand and focus on the elections in 2014. But I don't view the government shutdown as a failure. We saw conservatives who were willing to fight for the Constitution and our Republic. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee came out heroes, which Boehner doesn't like.
I don't think going Democrat and giving in to Trillion dollar budgets and put reductions off for later is consistent with a true conservative ideology. Boehner only wants to help junior RINOs get elected and into positions of power - not to save the Republic, increase Republican presence in his "Ruling Class".
America is CONSERVATIVE and AMERICA is not represented in DC.
No we are a majority being tortured by the minority
I think you are defining tactics with targets.
“True conservative,” to me, is a target. It refers to the policy mix. For example, a strong national defense, a free-market economy, returning domestic policies to the states, and promoting traditional social values.
How we get there, given that the Republicans control only one of the two houses of the Congress, is a different question. Should we use the power we actually have to (1) force the other side to accept our positions by shutting down the government or (2) work with the other side to get a fair compromise position.
The question is moot since conservatives don’t bother to vote. 4 million stayed home in Nov. 2012.
The way the Republican party appears to be standing now I don’t want anything to do with them.
Come election time I will pick and choose. I will vote Republican only if that Republican is Conservative, Other than that they can KMA./
conservatives are a plurality in America, but not a majority. The fact is, most people are un-engaged enough to fall for whatever emotional ploy is made during a political campaign. As others said, people are conservative in principle but will fight to the mat for whatever program they receive benefit. That can be SS, Medicare, subsidies, tax breaks, etc.
As said recently in the right-wing media, what is going on in DC is more of a soap opera or reality show...completely un-reflective of real life or the problems we face as a nation. Most are not engaged to get past that aspect.
If you think conservatives are a minority, then you better explain how conservatives and Republicans control 28 states while liberals control 11 states.
There are two political battlefields: the states and Washington DC.
The simple answer is “Yes”. The underlying reasons are manifold and not quite so simple; ranging from single issue voters, to low/no information voters, and a federally corrupted public education system that teaches accommodation to extremes rather than true basic, functional knowledge and accurate history.
In the end there is right and wrong and all those gray areas are BS but via Group Speak and PCness too many people have come to accept it.
Why should we re-elect spineless republicans that fold and roll over ALL THE TIME!?!?
F!@K Boehner
F!@K McConnell
They're dead and useless.
I used to have respect for Ryan, but he should've gotten a much better deal than he did. The dhimmis are weakened because of the disaster they brought on themselves. And he let them lift the sequester for what?
A bunch of empty promises!
We're going to have a $700B deficit this year! The dhimis are going to pack the courts so tight we're screwed for a generation.
How dare they lecture us when they've been nothing but miserable failures. If they don't have the stomach for a fight they should get the hell off the stage.