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TSA Officer Shot At LAX May Have Been Wrongly Declared Dead And Left Untreated
CBS 2 LOS ANGELES ^ | 15 NOVEMBER 2013 | CBS/AP

Posted on 11/16/2013 6:39:17 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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LOS ANGELES (CBS/AP) — An Associated Press report published Friday says help was delayed for more than 30 minutes for the Transportation Security Administration agent who was fatally shot at Los Angeles International Airport earlier this month.

Gerardo Hernandez, 39, was working at a lower-level passenger check-in station on the morning of Nov. 1 when a gunman pulled a semi-automatic weapon out of a duffel bag and opened fire.

Two law enforcement officials cited in the AP reports said paramedics waited 150 yards away because police had not declared the terminal safe to enter.

It would be 33 minutes before airport police would put Hernandez, who was about 20 feet from an exit, in a wheelchair and take him to an ambulance, said the officials, who were briefed on the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe was still ongoing.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; laxshooting
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1 posted on 11/16/2013 6:39:17 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Is this the one where they spent an hour at a press conference slapping each other on the back and praising inter-agency cooperation after the action was over?


2 posted on 11/16/2013 6:43:18 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So much for first aid training.


3 posted on 11/16/2013 6:44:35 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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TSA Officer Shot At LAX May Have Been Wrongly Declared Dead And Left Untreated

CYA

4 posted on 11/16/2013 6:45:27 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Steely Tom

It sure is.


5 posted on 11/16/2013 6:45:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

More competence out of law enforcement.

Tell me again how the typical citizen is better off with these clowns being given arrest powers with guns and costumes?


6 posted on 11/16/2013 6:46:51 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Steely Tom

I forget which station I was listening to, but one guy said, “This operation went off without a hitch.” (paraphrased)

Ah, then your general plan is to have your agents wind up dead?


7 posted on 11/16/2013 6:49:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The irony is that the cops “secured” the scene before letting him have any medical attention. Ironic because the TSA also prevents activities under the guise of security.


8 posted on 11/16/2013 6:51:18 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

We’re with the government...and we’re here to help you.


9 posted on 11/16/2013 6:51:21 PM PST by moovova
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Same as Columbine; arrive in a flash and then stand there outside in all your fancy black os and robbers play clothes FOR HOURS as peoe get shot and slooooooowly bleed to death, begging for help.

I really do mean for HOURS.

“just as long as I go home safe at the end of myself shift...”

More laws and fancy kook gear, more crime and killing


10 posted on 11/16/2013 6:51:42 PM PST by gaijin
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The first rule one learns at EMT school is you cannot enter a place where violence has happened until you get an okay from the police. You cannot do it. If you do, you will no longer have that job because you endangered all members of the emergency response group. They could not approach that man until the police said it was safe to do so.

If the police screwed up, that is their problem, not the emergency response group.


11 posted on 11/16/2013 6:52:05 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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“Is this the one where they spent an hour at a press conference slapping each other on the back and praising inter-agency cooperation after the action was over?”

Yep, I was going postal as I witnessed it on live TV (live about 35 miles from LA) It was absolutely disgusting. VERY surprised that a bigger deal wasn't made of it.

12 posted on 11/16/2013 6:53:29 PM PST by DAC21
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To: Marcella

Non sequitur much?


13 posted on 11/16/2013 7:00:20 PM PST by MrEdd (iHeck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Marcella

I think everyone is blaming the cops and not the paramedics/EMTs.


14 posted on 11/16/2013 7:00:30 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The same type of government bungling we can expect with Obamacare. Imagine being taken by ambulance battered and bleeding from a car accident to a hospital and waiting a half an hour for your treatment while some clerk tries to access your Obamacare data from a government computer.


15 posted on 11/16/2013 7:01:19 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If the TSA agents were armed they could fire off a few shots to let folks know they are still alive after a shooting.

s/off I guess


16 posted on 11/16/2013 7:20:24 PM PST by alpo (What would Selco do?)
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To: MrEdd; gaijin
I wanted to let the readers know the EMTs could do nothing until given the assurance the scene was safe. They can't override the police.

Emergency protocol also is that only a doctor can determine if death has happened. No policeman can do that. EMTs first check vital signs and report to a doctor these signs if they are connected to a doctor by radio. If they are connected to the doctor, he can tell them the patient is dead and not start CPR. If they begin CPR before talking with a doctor, they cannot stop that procedure until told to by a doctor. These are Texas protocols and I suppose they could vary by state.

The point is, determining death is done by a doctor. Certainly no policeman can do it and I would imagine that is true in any state.

17 posted on 11/16/2013 7:21:10 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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As a former paramedic, I concur.

Whenever we responded to a shooting we parked away from the scene and waited until it was secure. No one is served by EMS adding to the body count.


18 posted on 11/16/2013 7:37:37 PM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
If Dakota Meyer had been there he would have gone in and brought the man out!


19 posted on 11/16/2013 7:55:43 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Solution: Armored ambulance, EMT vehicles, and AR-15 carrying EMT`s.

No problem.

Never bring an unarmed sitting duck to a gunfight.


20 posted on 11/16/2013 8:10:57 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (`)
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