Posted on 09/30/2013 5:37:50 AM PDT by expat1000
..In this ironic case, the 13-year-old unidentified girl, and the 12-year-old boy, are both on the sex offender list and are the victims in the case, because they had consensual sex with each other.
The two violated a Utah state law that criminalizes having sex with a person under 14 years of age. Although they were both children, Utah State officials found them guilty of sexual abuse of a child....
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I don't think I'd hold parents accountable for the randy acts of young-uns on the verge of physical maturity. I'm old enough to know folks (older than me) who married, yes, married, at age 15. And stayed married. And raised good families, and grew to old age with each other.
I read a headline the other day announcing adolescence extended to 25. Culturally, that's where we may be at. Psychologically, that's perhaps what our society has done to younger folks.
But physically, most boys and girls are ready for parenthood no later than age 14 - 16, and plenty, a whole lot earlier. Passing laws to punish the parents of children who figure that out doesn't seem to me to be wise.
sitetest
Testing.....
So, what about the mentally handicapped. If two of them date each other, and wind up having sex, do we send them both to jail for being rapists?
I'm not thinking in terms of "punishing," but more of "incentivizing" adults.
It may be that there's nothing useful to be done. However, when a 13-year-old and a 12-year-old have produced a child, we at least ought to be able to agree that something has gone wrong.
If they are old enough for sex, they are old enough to get a job and move out and take care of themselves.
Tell them that too. Make it a rule.
I wonder when their public school sex education started....
“I'm not thinking in terms of ‘punishing,’ but more of ‘incentivizing’ adults.”
Well... I guess it depends on definitions of words. To me, filing charges of neglect against folks sounds more like “punishment” than “incentive.”
“However, when a 13-year-old and a 12-year-old have produced a child, we at least ought to be able to agree that something has gone wrong.”
Certainly. Unfortunately, our society has mostly lost its moral order.
sitetest
You’re welcome. Stay free.
The law prevents children from getting jobs or renting apartments in almost all situations.
The gap between physical maturity and psychological, economic, or social maturity is a serious problem. It would be instructive to observe how other societies have dealt with this in the past. I’m thinking of classical Greece, for example, where boys/men practiced homosexuality until they reached their 20s or older. Then they married young teenage girls. Homosexuality and prostitution seem to be common, historically, in societies where men delay marriage. Fornication of young women wasn’t as common.
It seems to me that a lot of misery is in store for the most vulnerable members of society, especially the babies.
And in Latin America, to some extent. How’s it working out for them ... not too well, seems like.
That's why I say that when TSHTF, the primary targets should be those GIVING THE ORDERS!
I don't know. How is it working for them? What criteria are you using, what factors are you judging? Seems kind of weird to me, but maybe it works for them.
“I wonder when their public school sex education started....”
Their education started by watching television where they saw that its normal to have sex if you like each other, and that all the cool kids do it. Imagine you are a teen or pre-teen who has never had a date but have seen innumerable TV shows where sex happens on the first date. As far as you know this is normal and expected behavior.
In deference to the family audience, I was at age 11, being female and all. Some children are no longer children at that age, but there is NO way they should be charging those kids as sex offenders.
The society talks about “it”, sings about “it”, has TV shows and movies about “it” so how can they expect kids not to do “it?”
You are missing the point. I’m not saying they should go to jail. I’m saying they cannot give consent.
Legally, you cannot say “A 13 year-old cannot give consent unless they can”.
Force them to get married and get jobs...that’ll teach them.
The point of the sex offender list is to identify threats to children. A 12 and 13 year old willing to have sex with each other show not only shows a lack of good judgment but a willingness to act on their impulses. That is the threat to other children. Will that change over time as they mature? Perhaps, but when? Does anyone want their daughter to associate with a sexually active 12 year old willing to act on his impulses? When does he become “safe?” At 13,14,15,16? You can turn that around too for sons.
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