Posted on 09/25/2013 10:13:34 AM PDT by GraceG
Adolescence no longer ends when people hit 18, according to updated guidelines being given to child psychologists.
The new directive is designed to extend the age range that child psychologists can work with from 18 years old up to 25.
It is hoped the initiative will stop children being 'rushed' through their childhood and feeling pressured to achieve key milestones quickly, reports the BBC.
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At some point these people did an analysis and come to a conclusion that both you and I disagree with. We may wish to dismiss the factors I have mentioned, but ultimately those factors could have influenced the decision resulting in the mindset in question.
This mindset is foreign to the both of us. There have always been some people out there like this. The question is, why are so many choosing this path today?
In our day it would have been personally unacceptable to remain home into the mid or late twenties, most certainly into the 30s.
Excellent idea.
In the colonial period, taxes in America were paid mostly through levies on property. Voting rights had minimum property qualifications, so that the voters — not someone else — would be subject to the taxes their representatives passed. The voters would have as much govenment as they were willing to pay for. Allowing dependent people with no skin in the game to vote is dead end folly, i.e., what we have now.
Really? No way should a young person’s first home be $500k.
There isn’t a home in my region that goes for less, unless it’s on skid row or 75 miles from work.
In other regions yes. And in those regions salaries are so much less that it’s again problematic.
At the rate things are going, parents will be leaving them bills.
Coincidentally, Junior called this morning to say thanks for footing the bill and hopefully we won't have to this time next years. We pay for the kids' health and car insurance, mainly so we won't be stuck with a huge bill one day (knock on wood). We also pay for college tuition but nothing else. If they want to live in a ritzy apartment, eat lobster and party, then they do it on their dime.
That’s right, don’t rush. There’s free, illegal labor and anchor potential streaming across the boarder.
Remember how many were crying over poor little Jihad Johnny (John Lindh) because he was such a wee confused baby.
Then we should also change the voting eligibility requirements! I’d exempt our fine military servicemembers of course....
I don't see a problem with it being optional. The insurance company probably wants to incentivize their customers to add younger family members to the plan, since the younger folks will probably pay in more in their premiums than they take out. Just sounds like good business sense on their part.
They didn’t do an analysis, their parents didn’t push them to adulthood. They were basically raised like dogs, once they stopped peeing on the carpet further development was not expected. So they got up to the point of being 16 and found life to be perfect, they access to a car, they had access to money, they had no responsibilities, and they were quite comfortable. And they’re parents are willing to put up with it year after year after year.
I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve had the exact same conversation with David’s (my nephew-in-law) parents and grandparents. They say they don’t know what to do with him, I say kick him out and cut him off, they say they can’t do that. 2 months before I graduated high school my mom sat me down and explained I was going to be an adult soon and with that came responsibilities, I was getting June for free as a graduation present, I was getting July for free as a birthday present, but August 1 I was paying rent, how much rent depended on what kind of job I got, but no job was not going to equate to no rent I’d have to work it off around the house. In the 26 years since I’ve spent less than a cumulative year unemployed. David’s family doesn’t even expect him to do basic chores.
We’ve got a large group of parents out there that quite simply didn’t parent. And for their punishment they have 16 year-olds in their 30s.
I am all for that, but would include if you are on any government assistance, you have no vote until you can support yourself.
http://www.trulia.com/home_prices/Texas/
The average listing price in TX is $200k so a starter home for a young person is considerably less. Many parents commute an hour or more to work not because of the real estate but to get out of the city schools. Because of that, real estate out here in podunkville is a ridiculous 2-3 times that inside the city. It’s likely a young single person would want the city lights.
http://www.trulia.com/home_prices/California/
The average in your CA is $400. It’s their choice to live in high $$$ areas like LA and San Fran.
They won’t even get that. Even if they wanted to, who’s going to hire a 50 year old with no work history and no skills? For all intents and purposes these people are perpetually 16, and that’s who will be beating them out for jobs, ACTUAL teenagers who are obviously more responsible because they’re looking for work while teenagers.
I didn’t take into account that you’re talking about people who don’t go to college. I was thinking of college grads who couldn’t find a a job and give up.
I was married early too.
I am not sure it is smart to get married by the government today given the huge marriage penalties taxes and healthcare will hit. Better to be married before God not state.
I’ve actually seen some great looking homes in Texas for $100k too.
If you want to make the case you can find a home for less, go ahead. In some regions you can. Where I live the $400k you mention would put you smack dab in the middle of a very low rent district. Forget about a family while you live there. You couldn’t raise kids there. Your wife wouldn’t necessarily be safe. You might not be either.
Here you have no choice but to put your kids in a private school. Chances are the kids in the public school won’t even be able to speak English, and the whole mentality is geared to servicing those sorts of kids and their families. Your kids would be considered to have not needs, so the attention they would get would be minimal, unless it was to blame them for everything that befell them at school. Been there. Done that. No thanks.
What you seem to be saying is that it’s unreasonable for a kid to want to live somewhere close to the town they grew up in, parents, siblings and their families, and friends they grew up with.
I don’t think it is. You move fifty miles away out here, and you just as well be in the next state for the amount of time you’ll be able to spend with the people in your family and that you grew up with.
My wife was pregnant before we were married. My responsibility to her, was to marry her. My responsibility to my children was to make sure they had a father and mother in a family setting for them by the time they came along.
Their mother and I agreed and we made it happen.
I lost that marriage about 15 years later, but it was important to me to have those kids in a family setting for as long as I could manage it.
I don’t defend the state for what it does. It was doing it then, and it will be doing it on into the future. I still think marriage is the cornerstone of our society.
I won’t let the Leftists destroy that.
Only the kind of analysis your normal stoned teenager thinks while watching mom and dad go off to work. Let’s face it, if reality would let us get away with a comfortable standard of living without working another day most of us would take it. Ostensibly that’s our goal when we save for retirement, so that we can once again live like carefree teenagers only without having to follow our parents’ rules. Well that’s the life these kids have, they’re retired, their parents don’t really have any rules for them, so why change.
I’ve talked to David about what happens when happens when the last of his parents that are willing to put up with his crap die (he’s already halfway there). It’s a big shoulder shrug, doesn’t know, doesn’t care, that’s the future and like a teenager he’s living in the moment. The problem I see with his family is they are unwilling to admit they failed, which keeps them from taking the next step. Kicking him out at 29 would admit they should have kicked him out at 19. In some ways they’re afraid of his own success, if they kick him out and he actually transits to functioning adulthood then everybody (including him) knows they failed him utterly for years.
I was livid with my mother at the time, but looking back on it, especially comparing things to David, it was probably the moment of her greatest success as a parent that did me the biggest favor. I’ve thanked her for it many times since then. I had to pay 1/2 of 1 average paycheck in rent, which since my first job was fastfood wasn’t much. But it was massive on a personal level, I had a bill, I had to hold down a job, I couldn’t just quit because it sucked unless I lined something else up first. Also the act of paying this bill made me start targeting moving out, if I had to pay bills anyway why would I want to put up with her rules, got out by age 20. Really all of my success as an adult stems from that moment, and when I met my wife, but I met her at work, a job I wouldn’t have had if I didn’t have to.
I put the blame on both sides. Yeah the parents did a crappy job of raising him. But he’s 29 freaking years old, somewhere in that some light should have gone off. He’s lost a lot of his childhood friends because they grew up, every time one of them exited to a comfortable life on their own the light switch should have flipped, but I think he unscrewed the light.
I know it’s a harder road to adulthood now. But the majority of the current failure to launch crowd hasn’t even looked at the road, they’re in the backyard having fun.
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