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Cleveland Police Disciplining 75 Cops After An Unarmed Couple Was Shot At 137 Times
Business Insider ^ | 08/02/2013 | Pamela Engel

Posted on 08/06/2013 7:37:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Cleveland police officials said Friday they're disciplining 75 of officers for their involvement in a police chase that ended in the shooting deaths of an unarmed man and woman, The Plain Dealer reports.

The pair were shot at 137 times while in their car, parked in a middle school parking lot. No officers were injured in what police called a "full blown-out" firefight.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine told reporters in February that "there is nothing normal about this case. ... This is a tragedy."

In November, about 60 police vehicles pursued the two suspects in a 25-minute chase spanning three cities. One suspect, 30-year-old Malissa Williams, was shot 24 times, and the other, 43-year-old Timothy Russell, was shot 23 times.

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But after the chase ended in a gunfight near Heritage Middle School, police checked the car and realized neither Williams nor Russell was armed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
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To: Mouton

Your example reminds me of that FReeper who did just that last April.

“Mouth off, start quoting the Constitution, or touching one of these storm troopers will result in a you lose situation...”

He went on some “Boy Scout Hike” armed to the teeth with bandoliers strapped accross his chest with an AR-15 as well. Cop stopped him and the guy goes nutz. Luckily for him, he didn’t get shot. Just arrested.


41 posted on 08/06/2013 8:17:03 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So these two did not assault anyone or steal anything and did not beat a cop’s head on the concrete. All they did was run from cops who were following them assuming that because they fled that they were doing something wrong — and they get 47 bulletholes. This is okay there but not in Sanford Florida.


42 posted on 08/06/2013 8:18:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TalonDJ

NOTHING! Running from a cop is not a capitol offense.

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Didn’t say it was. I’m not even saying these two idiots deserved to die. But what they did was stupid. Luckily for us....

They won’t do it again.


43 posted on 08/06/2013 8:20:06 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Run from the cops and be shot by 75 of them? Since when are the cops judge, jury and executioner?


44 posted on 08/06/2013 8:22:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Wait—I don’t understand. Are you saying that the cops were shooting at a MOVING car? My reading of the article indicates that the car was parked.

Which was it?


45 posted on 08/06/2013 8:22:13 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Venturer
Of course, the police should use sense when chasing suspects, but the fact is that the fleeing criminal decides how dangerous the chase will be.

Give them the notion that if they drive just crazy enough, they will get away, and that's what they'll do.

As for the shooting, I'm not defending that, beyond stating that if you make stupid choices, it's your own fault if things don't turn out well.

46 posted on 08/06/2013 8:23:25 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That makes sense unarmed drivers fleeing the police SHOULD be shot multiple times. And what the heck, if they make up a story about a “firefight” who cares. They’re probably criminals anyway. (SARCASM)


47 posted on 08/06/2013 8:23:56 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It's not necessary to run from the cops for them to apply pack response.

48 posted on 08/06/2013 8:25:16 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: dinodino

It was moving before it was parked. Read the article.


49 posted on 08/06/2013 8:27:05 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes, but was it moving or parked when the cops started shooting? Read the article.


50 posted on 08/06/2013 8:28:42 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bet this disciplning amounts to a lot more range time with the new high dollar bullets.


51 posted on 08/06/2013 8:28:45 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Responsibility2nd

We had this problem in Houston, unarmed people shot, throw-down guns used by the cops. It took full-blown prosecutions to curb this. Before then, the populace was more afraid of the cops than the bad guys.

Rather than “disciplining” the cops, they should be indicted for manslaughter.


52 posted on 08/06/2013 8:29:31 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Responsibility2nd

Here, I will help you out, since you are reading-impaired:

“The pair were shot at 137 times while in their car, parked in a middle school parking lot. No officers were injured in what police called a ‘full blown-out’ firefight.”

First, it was not a firefight, since the people in the car were unarmed. Second, the cops were not shooting at a moving car as you suggested, but at a car that was parked.


53 posted on 08/06/2013 8:30:35 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Full blown-out firefight”? There was no “fight” about it. The targets were UNARMED! This was an execution.


54 posted on 08/06/2013 8:33:19 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cops need to stick to their primary responsibility:

Raising money for the welfare state from innocent civilians attempting to legally go about their day.


55 posted on 08/06/2013 8:35:12 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Our men and women fighting in Afghanistan have more rigid rules of engagement than this. They can see potential enemies carrying weapons but cannot shoot until they are fired upon.

It has been almost a universal principle that cops aren’t supposed to shoot first. That has been relaxed to shooting someone who won’t drop their weapon. Even if that weapon is a spoon or a rock. Now it is being relaxed to shooting someone if you feel like it.


56 posted on 08/06/2013 8:36:17 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
about 60 police vehicles pursued the two suspects

what kind of protocol allows for a 60 car pursuit? - a dozen maybe- strategically placed.......for Christ sake this must have looked like the Blues Brothers

I had a sheriff friend once - who said they live for the chase and will drop everything to be in one - because they can basically run amok

57 posted on 08/06/2013 8:38:23 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: dinodino

Your post 45 where you said “Wait—I don’t understand”....

Pretty much sums up ALL your replies.

You’re either too stupid to understand basic English, or you’re spoiling for a fight.

Either way - its YOUR problem. I won’t engage with you.


58 posted on 08/06/2013 8:42:02 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: IronJack

Discipline SHOULD consist of prosecution, of every cop who discharged his weapon , for MURDER with aggravating circumstances -performed under color of law.

Bunch of trigger-happy pschos in uniform executed two people for fleeing.

The cops who didn’t fire but joined the chase without good cause and also those who filed false reports should be dismissed from the police department. Any officer who who files deliberately false reports has proven himself untrustworthy.

The way to restore America is to hold everyone to higher standards not make excuses for sloth and evil.


59 posted on 08/06/2013 8:43:20 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Totally agree. Between crazy cops with guns, drones in the sky, TSA, NSA etc America is turning into a Fascist Dreamworld.


60 posted on 08/06/2013 8:43:48 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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