U.S. Outlines N.S.A.'s Culling of Data for All Domestic Calls

New York Times ^ | 7/31/13 | Charlie Savage

[Nachum]

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration on Wednesday released formerly classified documents outlining a once-secret program of the National Security Agency that is collecting records of all domestic phone calls in the United States, as top officials testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee. As the hearing began, The Guardian newspaper published another document from the archives of Top Secret surveillance matters leaked to it by the former N.S.A. contractor Edward J. Snowden. It was a 32-page presentation describing the N.S.A.´s XKeyscore program, by which N.S.A. analysts can mine vast databases of phone and Internet information the agency has vacuumed up.

[combat_boots]

All those people, and I mean ALL of them, who come here and say ‘where’s the evidence’ should take heed.

It’s simple.

Your smartphone
Your smart TV
Your VM machine.
Your webcam
Your car Bluetooth
Your iPad/Surface
Your OnStar or variation
And your inter/intranet.

EVERYTHING is being tracked. The super-secret Shiite that the Super-Secret personnel actually do surpasses ‘birthdays now’ by 1000%. What you say in your car. What you look like when you look up. What your watch says about you.

This isn’t conspiracy. It’s comufact. Those who don’t know or who provide some kind of GLOMAR responses are poseurs and Administration proponents hiding in plain sight.

[444Flyer]

We are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

The Constitution has been declared null and void by Obama’s goon squad by fiat.

[upchuck]

Snowden is always one step ahead.

I suppose one could claim that was by design.

[upchuck]

Your smartphone            No gots
Your smart TV              No gots
Your VM machine.           No gots
Your webcam                No gots
Your car Bluetooth         No gots
Your iPad/Surface          No gots
Your OnStar or variation   No gots
And your inter/intranet.   Gots

Adding:

Your GPS                   No gots

Guess I'm realtively safe. My goal is to be invisible to these f*kers.

[firebrand]

They already have been collecting it. The outside of every post office letter.

[9YearLurker]

That’s what I meant.

[NormsRevenge]

Massive databases.. Gubamint per usable.. any ol’ darn time ‘they’ want to make sure they heard you right.. or want to prosecute you.

American Gulag 2013

[Carry_Okie]

We need to build off this meme from an Obama 2008 ad against Hillary, Why 2008 won't be like 1984... but by 2013, it will!

An ad like that would work against both of them.

[BigEdLB]

[Old Sarge]

[no-to-illegals]

oh forgot the most important part of my post to you. All the charges were eventually dropped. Took nearly six months but that is the way the whole escapade went.

[a fool in paradise]

One of the mobsters who was being wiretapped by RFK was dating Judith Exner (it wasn’t Sam Giancana). He’d have her call JFK at the White House just to #@$& with them.

[05 Mustang GT Rocks]

I was for it before I was against it. /s

[Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears]

“By the way, I couldn’t care less about the NSA story compared to the IRS story.”

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You are not the only person who dismisses one abuse of our freedom (NSA surveillance) in order to focus on another (IRS).

We can, and should, pay attention to both. They are both deadly threats to America.

[af_vet_rr]

By the way, I couldn't care less about the NSA story compared to the IRS story.

You should be much more concerned about the NSA story, because you are foolish to think the information will never be used.

[af_vet_rr]

I want to hear from EVERY FREAKING FREEPER who told us all that with the Patriot Act, “If you aren’t doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about?”

AMEN!

And some of these FReepers tracking this stuff nearly 10 years ago should be given some credit:

Total Information Awareness (TIA) System - Nov 25, 2002 (Free Republic)

EPIC.org Total Information Awareness (TIA) News Nov 25, 2002 (Free Republic)

Critics say Defense 'Total Information Awareness' Impractical - Dec 12, 2002 (Free Republic)

TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS (TIA) UPDATE - Feb 7, 2003 (Free Republic)

Pentagon spy database funding revealed (Total Information Awareness ) - Feb 27, 2003 (Free Republic)

Total Information Awareness Project Undergoes First Test - Apr 10, 2003 (Free Republic)

U.S. Pressing for High-Tech Spy Tools (Total Information Awareness) - Feb 22, 2004 (Free Republic)

U.S. Still Mining Terror Data (Total Information Awareness Program) - Feb 23, 2004 (Free Republic)

Total Information Awareness - Mar 8, 2007 (Free Republic)

[af_vet_rr]

The Constitution has been declared null and void by Obama’s goon squad by fiat.

It's not just Obama's people. A lot of this really started under the Bush administration. And let us not forget that many Republicans in Congress are doing nothing about this, and in fact support it. They are every bit as evil as the Democrats who support this, and they should be voted out of office.

[af_vet_rr]

See #36 about what was going on 10 years ago.

[Excellence]

What qualifies as a smartphone anymore? If it can go on the internet but not do any apps, is that a not-smart phone? Are they still tracked?

[upchuck]

What qualifies as a smartphone anymore?

I just copied combat_boots' list. ANY cell phone, even the $10 phone from Wal*Mart can be tracked. The world-wide cell phone network depends on GPS for positioning. That's how they track you. You could (in theory) turn off the GPS in your phone. But then you couldn't make or receive calls.