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Can Quantum Mechanics Produce a Universe from Nothing?
www.apologeticspress.org ^ | 2/1/2013 | Jeff Miller, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/18/2013 10:36:09 AM PDT by kimtom

According to the First Law of Thermodynamics, nothing in the Universe (i.e., matter or energy) can pop into existence from nothing (see Miller, 2013). All of the scientific evidence points to that conclusion. So, the Universe could not have popped into existence before the alleged “big bang” (an event which we do not endorse). Therefore, God must have created the Universe.

One of the popular rebuttals by the atheistic community is that quantum mechanics could have created the Universe. In 1905, Albert Einstein proposed the idea of mass-energy equivalence, resulting in the famous equation, E = mc2 (1905). We now know that matter can be converted to energy, and vice versa. However, energy and mass are conserved, in keeping with the First Law. In the words of the famous evolutionary astronomer, Robert Jastrow, “[T]he principle of the conservation of matter and energy…states that matter and energy can be neither created nor destroyed. Matter can be converted into energy, and vice versa, but the total amount of all matter and energy in the Universe must remain unchanged forever” (1977, p. 32). The idea of matter-energy conversion led one physicist to postulate, in essence, that the cosmic egg that exploded billions of years ago in the alleged “big bang”—commencing the “creation” of the Universe—could have come into existence as an energy-to-matter conversion.

In 1973, physicist Edward Tryon of the Hunter College of the City University of New York published a paper in the British science journal Nature titled, “Is the Universe a Vacuum Fluctuation?” He proposed the idea that the Universe could be a large scale ........

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To: Black Agnes; kimtom

It’s turtles...all the way down.


121 posted on 07/18/2013 12:37:11 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Black Agnes

dead or alive?


122 posted on 07/18/2013 12:37:57 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
It’s turtles...all the way down.

I've always been fond of that explaination.
123 posted on 07/18/2013 12:39:30 PM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: UCANSEE2

Comes from raising two physicists who are into astrophysics.

Leads to some interesting dinnertime conversations.


124 posted on 07/18/2013 12:43:02 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: SgtHooper; UCANSEE2

I both am and am not a genius, as long as you don’t look in the box.


125 posted on 07/18/2013 12:45:02 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Romulus
"dead or alive?"

Yes.

126 posted on 07/18/2013 12:50:24 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: dfwgator

God created Quantum Mechanics and all of the rest of the components that make up the Big Bang. His hand and his plan are not limited to the simplified interpretation and timeline of creation that emerged from the minds of men.


127 posted on 07/18/2013 12:55:25 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“A particle of matter and a particle of anti-matter can collide and result in nothing.”

Not quite, when the two meet there is a conversion of the masses into pure energy which could take part in the creation of new particles. Those particles are composed of packaged energy waves so in reality they do not come from nothing and decay into nothing. Energy is an entity, possibly a manifestation of the hand of God.


128 posted on 07/18/2013 1:03:45 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

I didn’t know that. Wrecks my theory. Thanks.


129 posted on 07/18/2013 1:04:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: FredZarguna

The ultimate bigot is a scientist who rejects any thought but that which he considers scientific. His definition of science is what he chooses it to be. All thouight is scientific. What remains is to have a conversation. Excluding some thought because it does not meet your subjective standards is unscientific. Your very claim to the exclusivity of the scientific method is incompatible with the scientific method.


130 posted on 07/18/2013 1:06:08 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Romulus

“..It’s turtles..”

what no elephants???


131 posted on 07/18/2013 1:08:22 PM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Sorry, no elephants. Only turtles, and cats.


132 posted on 07/18/2013 1:17:27 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: kimtom
the Universe could not have popped into existence before the alleged “big bang” (an event which we do not endorse). Therefore, God must have created the Universe.

You can stop reading right there. "We can't explain it, so it must be God".

Cue the picture of the wild haired guy saying, "Aliens".

133 posted on 07/18/2013 1:27:58 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers

Depends on how one defines God, Junior. If God is infinite beyond space and time, eternal beyond all creation, has no beginning and no end, then, yes, at the end of all creation is God.


134 posted on 07/18/2013 1:59:15 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: metmom

I peeked; you’re a genius.


135 posted on 07/18/2013 2:15:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: AceMineral

In that case what is space?


136 posted on 07/18/2013 2:26:06 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

Space is the absence of time and energy.


137 posted on 07/18/2013 2:54:37 PM PDT by AceMineral (One day the people will beg for chains.)
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To: metmom; kimtom
"And that doesn’t even account for all the order and information present in creation that we see now. That just deals with the beginning."

Like Topsy, it just growed?

138 posted on 07/18/2013 2:56:59 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: metmom

139 posted on 07/18/2013 2:59:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Romulus; Black Agnes; kimtom

140 posted on 07/18/2013 3:02:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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