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Guardian makes splash in US with security scoops
The Associated Press ^ | June 7, 2013 | Gregory Katz

Posted on 06/08/2013 12:51:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

LONDON--Before this week, the Guardian newspaper's gradual move into the U.S. — hiring dozens of employees in the last two years — hadn't produced much of a splash in terms of scoops.

In the last three days that has changed.

The newspaper, which started publishing in the English city of Manchester in 1821 and is now based in London, has established a significant presence in Washington by uncovering the vast scope of secret surveillance operations carried out by U.S. officials at the National Security Agency.....

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: guardian; liberalmedia; msm; nsa; obama; obamaspeople; scandals; terrorism; threatmatrix; wiretapping
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; mickie; flaglady47; seekthetruth; seenenuf; Bob Ireland; surfer; Bushbacker1; ...
My take on why "we have to rely on mostly left-wing British newspapers to find out what Mr. Obama is up to" is totally different from the explanations being speculated on...here on this forum, in the media and on TV.

Without writing a long treatise on the subject....I've heard Obama's White House operatives are trying to smoke out government employee leakers who have or had major or minor "scandal" stories to tell....and are doing so in a raging, retributive way so they can fire them or punish them in some way.

I believe these leakers, who are good and brave people, feel safer from discovery, harm and revenge by giving their revelations to an English-speaking media across the sea, or to its reporters stationed in DC.

I believe the British media operatives will protect the leakers more than will corrupt American journalistas.....while at the same time, the Brit media operatives are also safer from Obama's wrath and Holder's subpoenas if investigations, law suits or indictments of some kind occur.

I know if I were a leaker of damning news concerning the Obama administration, I'd feel a heck of a lot more secure spilling the beans to a foreign-based, (even a left-wing) publisher, editor or reporter than anyone at the NY or LA Slimes.

The "left-wing" media, we must remember, is turning on Obama in a big way, also. It also loves scooping the American media. I also believe the British media journalists will protect their sources more than the left-wing media here in this country.

Leni

41 posted on 06/08/2013 5:32:19 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why do we have to rely on mostly left-wing British newspapers to find out what Mr. Obama is up to?

Maybe it's because Obama may hate Britain more than he hates the US?

42 posted on 06/08/2013 5:34:32 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: All

at least with outlets like RT and Al Jazeera, you know they hate the USA. These outlets hide the fact and they’ve created a president that isn’t used to defending himself with intelligent arguments but through intimidation. Now like CNN in Baghdad, they risk losing access to the bully regime if they dare report what is actually happening.


43 posted on 06/08/2013 5:41:32 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: TexGrill
Fox grew during the Bush years for the same reason they grow today, there is nobody out there in all the other chanels even reporting the conservative side and Fox only does it half the time.

MSNBC would gain back some viewers but there are 5 of other stations out there that supply the same all liberal view on a more sane basis.

Somebody really wants a hot news channel they need to do a conservative one because they would be the only one being all conservative.

44 posted on 06/08/2013 5:41:41 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: MinuteGal

Where are the Benghazi leakers?


45 posted on 06/08/2013 6:09:49 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just imagine the reams of data the DOJ has on all Freepers!


46 posted on 06/08/2013 6:12:19 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Gen.Blather
"The American press has a sense of ownership and buy-in on the Obama administration."

That's the one side, they want to protect their guy.

On the other side, they hate normal American. They hate conservatives, Republicans (God knows why in this case), Christians, the free market, traditional morality, patriotism and ordinary people, who want to do for themselves. Can't have that, they think the wrong thoughts and make the wrong decisions.

Their hatred is their prime motivator. The won't publish anything that they see will help they people they hate.

In fact, this one sentence is all you need to know about media bias:

The won't publish anything that they believe will help they people they hate.

47 posted on 06/08/2013 6:24:29 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for the ping...

A former NSA person speaks out on spying on Americans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfS2Op9l3nk


48 posted on 06/08/2013 7:15:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC is to news channels as Ringling Bros' Clown College is to Harvard University. - - Greenfield)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

49 posted on 06/08/2013 7:30:36 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Lady Heron
Somebody really wants a hot news channel they need to do a conservative one because they would be the only one being all conservative.

Although I think half the time Glen Beck is losing it, "The Blaze" does real reporting (as far as I can tell) and might be worth your while to check it out.

50 posted on 06/08/2013 8:06:11 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Did you notice they bowed to each other? That ole Bowbama! Ain’t he a hoot! /S


51 posted on 06/08/2013 8:07:52 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like the British newspapers myself. Look thru my posting history and you’ll find that a lot of my sources are from that island. Even though they’re liberal, it’s not in their interest to cover up what the Democrats are doing over here in the continent. They are just trying to sell more papers by the end of the day.


52 posted on 06/08/2013 8:08:46 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MestaMachine; Nita Nupress; little jeremiah; onyx
We ALL need to be praying for Mesta. For her health, her protection, and for her to have wisdom on what to to with the information she has.

I agree with nita, get that information to as many people as possible by secure means.
Possibly some outside of the US. We need God's help for her to know who to trust and who can effectively use the info, who is not a traitor or compromised.

We also need to pray for many within CIA and NSA who are believers to gain courage for such a time as this to stand up and speak truth against the evil wicked in this land.

I'm praying these Psalms :
Psalm 36
Psalm 37

53 posted on 06/08/2013 9:29:43 AM PDT by boxlunch (Isaiah 41:10)
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To: Bushbacker1

LOL...then I would actually have to watch TV....I am kind of over it.


54 posted on 06/08/2013 9:43:32 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: boxlunch; MestaMachine; little jeremiah; onyx

One more thing about snail mail... Hand write everything involving who gets copies. Do not use a computer, phone, etc to discuss it with recipients. Write a handwritten letter to any and all ppl you send evidence to, with explicit instructions to never mention it on a phone, in email or text message, etc. When mailing, drop them in a drive-by mailbox instead of walking into a post office.

You must assume any digital communication whatsoever is not secure, including copiers and printers. To make a copy of handwritten correspondence, use carbon paper, which is still available at office supply stores. Oh, and buy a lot of it, and press down hard. Lol.


55 posted on 06/08/2013 9:56:32 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Darin1948

customers are looking to the bloggers and British Media for the real news.

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This is not a recent phenomena for me. I noticed during the Clinton years, that whenever the media got all hyped up with some scandal or another, the foreign media often was publishing some “real” news about issues that the USA media was ignoring.

Later when some of the stuff came out in the USA, the media was excusing themselves by saying well all that salacious stuff leading to impeachment just sucked up all the oxygen, and kept everyone too distracted, so some stories just slipped through the cracks.

I didn’t have a PC before then, but as soon as I did I started reading Canadian, British, and other sources of news in order to balance out the less than inclusive LSM.


56 posted on 06/08/2013 11:54:15 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Markets, like nature, abhor a vacuum.


57 posted on 06/08/2013 12:40:50 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Nita Nupress

I wish I had the manual typewriter I learned on. I’ve thought about getting one but they’re either hard to find or expensive. I could try looking harder.

Not that I have any info worth sending anywhere.


58 posted on 06/08/2013 12:46:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MestaMachine

You take care of yourself first, everything else will fall in place. Being in scary times is such an understatement, it’s absolutely mind-boggling.


59 posted on 06/08/2013 12:53:11 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: MestaMachine; Kenny Bunk; HANG THE EXPENSE; autumnraine; Rushmore Rocks; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; ...
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. . . . . . # 6, then # 55.

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60 posted on 06/08/2013 12:59:39 PM PDT by LucyT ("Once you've gone round the bend you've gone as far as you can go. ")
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