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Court: Drug dog sniff is unconstitutional search
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Posted on 03/26/2013 11:36:13 AM PDT by edcoil

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that police cannot bring drug-sniffing police dogs onto a suspect's property to look for evidence without first getting a warrant for a search, a decision which may limit how investigators use dogs' sensitive noses to search out drugs, explosives and other items hidden from human sight, sound and smell.

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1 posted on 03/26/2013 11:36:13 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: edcoil
But... but... but... how else can they manufacture probable cause?
2 posted on 03/26/2013 11:40:46 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

See tagline.


3 posted on 03/26/2013 11:42:46 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“My dog alerted, so that’s the reason I had cause to search the person/car/house.”


4 posted on 03/26/2013 11:45:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: edcoil

I wonder if this extends to other areas, where the heavy hand of government ‘investigates’ your property from afar.

I saw a show on energy...but one thing I noted - the ‘authorities’ had the capability of flying around in a helicopter with a heat sensing device, slave to a mapping device, and they could quickly catalog who was ‘wasting’ energy. I wonder if that will stop.

I’ve also wondered about explosive sensing technology. It seems pretty sensitive...could the police drive down the street, pointing something at your house, and sense powder residue on a gun? And if so, would this ruling extend to that?


5 posted on 03/26/2013 11:47:40 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: MrB
To paraphrase a legal cliché about grand juries, "A dog will alert to a ham sandwich."
6 posted on 03/26/2013 11:48:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: lacrew
I wonder if this extends to other areas, where the heavy hand of government ‘investigates’ your property from afar.

Or, at the very least, when do we get to use the same techniques to investigage them?

7 posted on 03/26/2013 11:50:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m reminded of the “parrot sketch” where the store clerk bumped the dead bird and said “there! he moved!”


8 posted on 03/26/2013 11:51:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
To paraphrase a legal cliché about grand juries, "A dog will alert to a ham sandwich."

That's a good one. A dog WILL alert to a ham sandwich. Rare is the one who won't.

9 posted on 03/26/2013 11:51:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: lacrew

Do you even know the element the dogs are smelling?


10 posted on 03/26/2013 11:53:36 AM PDT by Domangart
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To: edcoil

I belive they tried the infra red because inside plants didn’t light 24/7


11 posted on 03/26/2013 11:54:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: edcoil

I’d gladly swap a dog sniff for the TSA Fondle.

Wonder how thi courts will rule on this?

(crickets)


12 posted on 03/26/2013 12:01:26 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: edcoil

too bad they also didn’t include drones as well. we are hardly secure anymore from illegal searches, anywhere.

just remember probable cause must be based on something readily apparent and in plain sight. not wanting to be searched is not probable cause, asserting your rights is not probable cause. otherwise we’d never be able to refuse anything.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 12:09:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

there was a story today in the coments about a guy making a ham sandwich for lunch where a drug dog alerted to the smell of the ham.


14 posted on 03/26/2013 12:10:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

shoot the person the plant whatever on them. case closed.


15 posted on 03/26/2013 12:11:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
shoot the person the(n) plant whatever on them. case closed.

And Toto too.

16 posted on 03/26/2013 12:14:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: edcoil
Court: Drug dog sniff is unconstitutional search

No worries. The 0bama Regime will bypass this technicality with a drone strike.

17 posted on 03/26/2013 12:14:29 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: MrB; All
the title is quite misleading

the ruling does not say that an alert is not probable cause

the ruling deals with how the dog got onto the property to begin with, not the alert

the handler had him on a 6 foot lead and allowed the dog to traverse from the sidewalk onto the porch

the Court held, properly, that constituted a search since the State (in the form of the dog) entered onto the curtilage of the property (a protected area for 4th amendment purposes)without any recognized exception to the search warrant requirement (hot pursuit, emergency, plain view, etc...)

there is still good case law that a K9 sniff from a public area is PC for a search warrant of an apartment (no expectation of privacy in the 'common area' of a stairwell for an apartment building, therefore the K9 can sniff at each door in the stairwell without violating the 4th amendment)

18 posted on 03/26/2013 12:17:04 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: edcoil
Supreme Court Says It's Illegal For A Police Drug Dog To Sniff Your Porch

Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:39:18 AM by JustSayNoToNannies

19 posted on 03/26/2013 12:49:33 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Look on the bright side. This will allow taxpayers, who currently fund the full-time K9 officer and all the food and vet bills for the dog, to have the officer and dog increase their visits to elementary schools, possibly to five days a week! There they can continue to spread the gospel of police searches, traffic stops and the effective use of the 4th and 5th Amendments as doggie piddle paper because the dog ‘indicated’ near the trunk of a randomly-stopped car. Never mind that it was a waft of exhaust or a skunk - dogs are smarter than us! Conveniently, Rin Tin Tin can’t be cross-examined in court so it’s up to the K9 officer to take the stand and repeat the nonsense about ‘indicating.’

The little ones must learn that civil liberties aren’t important when you have a furry friend!


20 posted on 03/26/2013 12:49:44 PM PDT by relictele
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