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The secret war behind Benghazi (lot's of good info)
NYPost.com ^ | 2/10/2013 | KYLE SMITH

Posted on 02/10/2013 2:14:36 PM PST by RoosterRedux

Obama gave his chief counterterrorism advisor, John Brennan, who is now the nominee to be the next leader of the CIA, a blank check. Brennan could do just about whatever he needed to do in North Africa and the Mideast, contend Murphy and Webb. Brennan chose to conduct a dangerous classified war without looping in Stevens, who paid with his life for his ignorance, according to the book.

The Joint Special Operations Command, which Brennan controls, is a collection of special forces outside of the regular military command originally formed as a hostage-rescue team. But in the middle of last summer, say Murphy and Webb, troops operating clandestinely under JSOC began infiltrating Libya.

“With the first phase of the Global War on Terror (GWOT) all but over,” say Murphy and Webb, “JSOC was starting in on ‘GWOT Season 2,’ as it were, where North Africa was seen as the most dangerous hub of terrorist activity.”

Murphy and Webb go on to make a shocking charge: “The nature of these operations remains highly classified. They were never intended to be known to anyone outside a very small circle in the Special Operations community and within Obama’s National Security Council. Ambassador Stevens, the CIA chief of station in Tripoli and then-director of the CIA, Gen. [David] Petraeus, had little if any knowledge about these JSOC missions.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 20120911; africa; alqaeda; benghazi; brennan; chrisstevens; christopherstevens; davidpetraeus; derna; iraq; iraqwar; johnbrennan; jsoc; jsocmissions; libya; mideast; murphy; nafrica; northafrica; petraeus; petraeusm; usambassador; waronterror; webb
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To: TigersEye
Obama now has his own personal shadow intel gathering and spec-ops organization, which reports through Brennan.

And if Brennan becomes DCI, he will be able to clear the path for his Joint Special Operations Command and their private war to shape the Middle East to Obama's liking.

This will give Obama the opportunity to manipulate the ME so as to bring about his Caliphate.

Not saying he's the AC, but Obama is making all the right moves. For those of you who have exclaimed "he's to dumb to be the AC"...you might want to reconsider!

21 posted on 02/10/2013 4:10:10 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: BerryDingle

I want to know why none of those 20-30 have spoken with anyone, or even been identified. Or have I missed something?


22 posted on 02/10/2013 4:17:05 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: RoosterRedux
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23 posted on 02/10/2013 4:17:12 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: RoosterRedux
Do you ever watch Dual Survival? They have a new guy this year who is a 20 yr veteran of special forces missions. He's a great guy, I like him, but it immediately struck me sideways when they gave his bio as 'Force Recon Marines, Army Green Beret special operations and, last but not least, member of a highly classified counter-terrorist team not associated with the military.'

So, a lot like the drone program, we have teams of spec-ops warriors who are working without any oversight by the military which means there is no oversight by Congress.

I'm all for killing terrorists but what's the next step?

24 posted on 02/10/2013 4:19:10 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: timestax
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25 posted on 02/10/2013 4:19:17 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: FreedomPoster

I have no idea why some think these were Americans. Likely they were foreign nationals whose lives (and families’ lives) would be endangered by knowledge that they worked for America.

But it’s still a good question not asked by anyone in the MSM.


26 posted on 02/10/2013 4:20:41 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TigersEye
Col. Hunt said that we were only 20 min away by jet and a couple of hours away by AC-130 gunships and special forces, and the decision not to intervene had to be political.

Sigonella NAS in Sicily was on stand-by.

Sigonella is only 470 miles from the compound in Benghazi...and they were on stand-by with jets and C-130's. Even the C-130 could have made the trip in a little over an hour. An F-18 could have made a visit in under a half an hour.

Just a show of force--a sonic boom--would have given our men an edge

27 posted on 02/10/2013 4:22:23 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: Girlene; no-to-illegals
Was Brennan the moron who came up with the video excuse?

I don't think so.

Hillary Clinton is THE original source of the 'video did it' excuse for Benghazi, Cairo and all the rest of the embassy riots around the world. Hillary did it!

US Embassy in Cairo quietly deletes its ‘we stand by our condemnation’ tweet; Update: More deleted tweets!

Here is Hillary pushing it again on Sept. 13th.

Clinton: Anti-Islam Video 'Disgusting' (video 2:56)

Here is a 'senior administration official' trying to distance 0bamugabe from Hillary's f-up and at the same time admitting by inference that she was the source of the 'video did it' meme.

Senior administration official: The Cairo embassy’s statement does not reflect the view of the U.S. government; Update: Romney calls embassy statement “disgraceful”

posted at 10:34 pm on September 11, 2012 by Allahpundit

The White House is disavowing a statement from their own Cairo embassy that apologized for anti-Muslim activity in the United States.

“The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” a senior administration official told POLITICO…

“Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a Tuesday statement.

And here 0bamugabe and Hillary work together to try to prop up her 'video did it' nonsense and spread it even further.

Obama and Hillary Apologize for Free Speech on Pakistani TV (taxpayer-funded ads) 09/20/2012

Nope, she never said anything about a 'video.'

Father of Fallen SEAL: Hillary Told Me They’d Get That Filmmaker Good 10/25/2012 videos at link

28 posted on 02/10/2013 4:22:31 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: timestax
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29 posted on 02/10/2013 4:25:00 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: jjotto
But it’s still a good question not asked by anyone in the MSM.

For the most part, the MSM is owned by the enemy. Why would they ask a question that would damage their interests?

I am astonished that sentient freepers are still incredulous about the behavior of the so-called MSM.

30 posted on 02/10/2013 4:26:48 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: timestax
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31 posted on 02/10/2013 4:27:07 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: TigersEye
Right.

Obama has not only divided the electorate...he has also divided our military and intel assets.

32 posted on 02/10/2013 4:29:19 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: timestax
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33 posted on 02/10/2013 4:29:22 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: RoosterRedux; Travis McGee

I can’t find my link to it now but early on there was an article about a special team from Germany that was moved to Sigonella ready and raring to go. As Travis McGee posted, they have teams who practice regularly for hostage/embassy rescue missions and they’ve been doing that for decades.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 4:29:24 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: timestax
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35 posted on 02/10/2013 4:31:20 PM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: TigersEye
Yep.

That was under the Africom commander, Carter F Ham, who has been relieved of duty (though we are unsure of the exact details of his "early" removal). Africom (U.S Africa Command) is headquartered in Stuttgart.

36 posted on 02/10/2013 4:36:07 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: TigersEye; RoosterRedux; Nachum; MestaMachine
Just looking at this earlier, from the point of the first phone call;

Something isn’t adding up here, first phone call to Washington from the Tactical Operations Center, at the top of the incident, approximately 9:42, as noted below in Background Briefing. Do Panetta Gen. Martin Dempsey at 10:32 sit on this and don’t react for another 28 minutes? This long of a wait, after the almost 50 minutes it takes for whoever first took a call for help? That’s about 78 minutes wasted after the first call for “help”, which would have been quite a specific call, as you'll see the situation the agent in the TOC(Tactical Operations Center) is in, then adding the last 30 minutes, that's 108 minutes passed...;

10:32 p.m. — The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. “The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey.”

11 p.m. — Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/09/obama-administration-continues-explanations-on-benghazi-decision-making/

According to the timeline Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were told of the attack about an hour after it started, as both men were on their way to the White House for an already scheduled meeting with President Barack Obama. Thirty minutes later the president was directing the Pentagon to do all it could to assist, according to senior Pentagon officials.

Background Briefing on Libya
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/10/198791.htm

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE: ...At 9:40 p.m., the agent in the TOC and the agents in Building C hear loud noises coming from the front gate. They also hear gunfire and an explosion. The agent in the TOC looks at his cameras – these are cameras that have pictures of the perimeter – and the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound.

...that agent from the top of this incident, or the very beginning of this incident, has been on the phone. He had called the quick reaction security team, he had called the Libyan authorities, he had called the Embassy in Tripoli, and he had called Washington. He had them all going to ask for help. And he remained in the TOC.(Tactical Operations Center)

(more on the TOC )...The Tactical Operations Center, which is just across the way from Building B, has offices and a bedroom. That’s where the security officers had their main setup, that’s where the security cameras are, a lot of the phones – it’s basically their operations center. So I’ll call it the TOC from now on.

A few minutes later – we’re talking about 9 o’clock at night – the Ambassador retires to his room, the others are still at Building C, and the one agent in the TOC. At 9:40 p.m., the agent in the TOC and the agents in Building C hear loud noises coming from the front gate. They also hear gunfire and an explosion. The agent in the TOC looks at his cameras – these are cameras that have pictures of the perimeter – and the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound. One special agent immediately goes to get the Ambassador in his bedroom and gets Sean, and the three of them enter the safe haven inside the building.

...The other agents who have heard the noise in the – at the front gate run to Building B or the TOC – they run to both, two of them to Building B, one to the TOC – to get their long guns and other kit.

...I should also have mentioned that at the very first moment when the agent in the TOC seized the people flowing through the gate, he immediately hits an alarm, and so there is a loud alarm. He gets on the public address system as well, yelling, “Attack, attack.” Having said that, the agents – the other agents had heard the noise and were already reacting.

...Okay. So we have agents in Building C – or an agent in Building C with the Ambassador and Sean, we have two agents in Building B, and we have two agents in the TOC.

...A third group of attackers tried to break into the TOC. They pound away at the door, they throw themselves at the door, they kick the door, they really treat it pretty rough; they are unable to get in, and they withdraw.

37 posted on 02/10/2013 4:40:23 PM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: Son House
Something isn’t adding up here, first phone call to Washington from the Tactical Operations Center, at the top of the incident, approximately 9:42,...

The first thing you need to do is realize that it was 3:42 PM EDST in D.C. 9:42 is the time in Benghazi Libya which is six hours earlier than in D.C.

38 posted on 02/10/2013 4:52:25 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

I think you meant later, as it was evening in Benghazi. There’s still 108 minutes of accounting for, as the attackers were unable to get in the Tactical Operations Center, so the agent in the TOC surely made that call at “the very beginning of this incident” as noted above from the SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE.


39 posted on 02/10/2013 5:03:03 PM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes, of course, the Democrats (who daily wet their pants over the Contras) would nominate Brennan for CIA. Nope, this doesn’t pass the common sense test.


40 posted on 02/10/2013 5:05:46 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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