Posted on 11/06/2012 5:18:28 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The media-inspired polls have to be cooked. So many evidences are present that people are fed up with the lies of government, the polls can NOT be accurate. More than likely, the media wants the public to follow the election through their services so they can sell advertising. A close, controversial election provides viewership and sells ads. May a little simplistic, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Nevertheless, any other outcome than what I want and the other side cheated. That's going to be the cry anyway.
I can only speak for where I am, and at my location in Arlington, VA (in the heart of Obamaville), the line was already very long at 6:00 AM; about as long as it was in ‘08. At least around me, Obama’s people are definitely turning out.
Look forward to posting to you when Romney wins despite the polls.
Political operatives have figured out that polls are the cheapest most cost-effective and efficient method of influencing public opinion yet. Why advertize and hope to sway someone when you can put out a poll that says what you want it to and they (even “US”) will swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
There is no validation or certification of pollsters, not even a crappy Good Housekeeping or Consumers Report.
They can lie, manipulate the data, shade it with any number of crapscience techinques designed to make the smarter among “us” think it is statistically valid, or just make the numbers up out of thin air. I can’t prove they did this - but you can’t prove the didn’t either!
By shrouding crap with science they borrow the techniques of that eminent crapscientist Algore and the Univ. of East Anglica to promote their agenda with enough “science” to fool the naive. If you wouldn’t turn to the MSM talking heads to interpret a scientific research report, why trust them to interpret statistical results of polls?
Bottom line: it’s a fraudulent business from end to end. There may be exceptions but for the most part I am convinced they manipulate data to give their clients the answer they are after and justify this manipulation with pseudoscientific BS designed to placate those who haven’t caught onto their tricks.
Haaahaaaaaaa..........
As for specifics, the turnout models are asinine -- most of them predict that Democrats will have turnout superior to their 2008 "wave election" numbers. And the only reason they do so is because they have to weight it that way to diminish the huge lead Romney has with independents.
Romney leads independents and gets enough GOP base to win this easily. I stand by my 53-45-2 popular vote and 338-200 electoral vote prediction.
I fear you are correct.
I joined FR in 2007 and read all the posts regarding how the polls were not correct and McCain was going to win. I wanted to believe those posts and even made a few myself regarding the "bad" polling. Deep down I knew in my gut that Obambi was probably going to win. This time I have a much better feeling about this election but I think it will be a nail biter down to the end.
We need EVERY Conservative and Republican to be a "broken glass" voter and crawl to the polls even if they are bleeding out. WE MUST WIN THIS or we may lose the only free country in the world. I am not being hyperbolic.
Believe it or not, NOTHING would make me happier than to be wrong. I’ll even ask for a 2nd helping of crow.
The polls are wrong because the pollsters and pundits are pulling data from 2008 when they should be looking at 2010. Also the pollsters are on the side of what is legal and lawful whereas the Obama machine and the media are living in a illegal realm where the end justifies the means. No one is looking at Obamas lawlessness and his cheating. The media knows that if they showed the true stats this race would have been over already so the lie and make it sound like a tie to fool the voter.
I think the poster who keeps putting up that pollsters only reach 9% of people with telephones any more has nailed it.
I know our phone has been going berzerk with polls and political calls, all of which we screen using caller ID. I think it’s become an unworkable proposition but they have too much money tied-up in it to admit anything.
You said it! I would have risked just about anything to vote this horrible president out of office, and I hope all patriots across this great land feel the same way, because we’re going to need every single one of them.
bookmark.
“I think both sides want people to believe its close to get people out to vote.”
I am interested in the psychology of voting. Let’s say the vote is a seemingly foregone conclusion and the media polling accurately reports that Obama is 3 to 4 points down.
Will that make a democrat voter ( not an Obama zealot ) more determined to vote or more dispirited and less likely to vote?
And what if the situation were reversed, and Romney was behind 3 or 4 points in the polling?
The question basically reflects on whether the typical voter is more of a pessimist or optimist. I have to admit I was surprised last time that the evangelical vote did not come out and vote for Palin.
what scares me is we said much the same thing in 08.
This is the first chance the Tea Party has had to vote the SOB out.
No one at my location had ever been polled.
I hate the Dutch.
Too many dykes.
I also hate people who are intolerant of other cultures...
I don’t understand why people will undeniably state “Romney will win! Obama will win!” How do you know? Because of polls, pundits or some great insider information? Truth is, no one knows. Polls could all be wrong, or right… so why make a prediction?
I’m going out and voting straight R, so you know where I stand, but I’m prepared to face the very grim reality that we could get 4 more years of the worse president in history. An alcoholic has to hit rock bottom before they can recover. The USA is in bad shape thanks to The One (and every president since Reagan), but we haven’t reached rock bottom. The fact that Obama can clearly play class warfare, run up a 6 trillion dollar debt, and severly hinder the economy, and constantly lie through his teeth yet still make this a close race is a sad reflection on where we are as a society.
Electing a conservative president is only a small step, changing the hearts and minds of people and restoring solid Christian conservative values to this country will be climbing a mountain. If that’s not done, we’ll only get Obama 2.0 in another 4 or 8 years.
Our Founding Fathers risked everything, including their lives, to create our Republic. WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION to do the same. We have become so well off most are reluctant to forgo their comforts for their sovereignty.
I am being honest when I write that I am willing to live in a cardboard box and live hand to mouth to fight for freedom and liberty. I am ready to do so now. I am ready to give my life if necessary. That sentiment is also why I chose to fight the Cold War in the positions I served.
Kick these Communists out TODAY!!
1) Gas Prices are still SKY HIGH.
2) Unemployment is still SKY HIGH.
3) Young graduates have debt, no jobs.
4) BO stinks! Always has, but now... more people know it.
For all the analysis that people do, sometimes.... it’s really not that hard to tell who’s gonna win. USUALLY, it’s the “more likable guy”.
McCain had ZERO chance, from the moment he limped onto the stage with the young, smiling, energetic, articulate & clean, black man.
John “Effing” Kerry was an arrogant snob...
Gore was a complete dumbass, and MOST people knew it... (especially in his home state). Scary how close it was.
Bubba? Need I say more?
Bush 41 vs Doofus Dukakis..
The trend goes on...
I think, Romney won the election in the debates, when people ACTUALLY SAW him, in real time, smiling... looking like the successful business man that he is, and being OPTIMISTIC. After the debates, for the FIRST TIME, Romney pulled even, to slightly ahead in LIKABILITY.
It’s a little sad... but, I REALLY think, this is the MOST important factor. In this election, it’s close... but, I think ROMNEY has the edge.
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