Posted on 10/26/2012 6:30:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BOMBSHELL: US troops in Benghazi would not have been painting targets on the ground unless there was air support overhead. But someone called it off And the decision most likely came from the White House.
FOX News reported earlier today that security officers on the ground in Benghazi had a laser planted on a target that was firing on the annex.
The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.
So there were two drones in the air recording the attack on the ground. And now we know the CIA team at the annex was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. The White House was able to watch the attack live back in Washington DC. Yet, yesterday Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said this,
The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over.
How much more information did they need?
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Then theres this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:
Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.
One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not paint a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.
Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.
If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.
If that SEAL was actively painting a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!
This is HUGE. It should be obvious by now that someone is not telling the truth. As Blackfive says,
This is bigger than Watergate! The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.
A caller today discussed this with Rush Limbaugh.
(VIDEO AT LINK)
Here is part of that conversation.
CALLER: Well, theres three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, its like an IM. I mean, its immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So its immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then theres a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this, and thats what would have happened.
So no one in the White House can deny that well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril. And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes. And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didnt need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?
Im giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, thats when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So theres always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.
Read the rest here. Hat Tip Truth and Common Sense
“There’s a broader lesson to be learned here,” Mr. Obama told “60 Minutes” correspondent Steve Kroft at the White House. “And I — you know, Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later. And as president, one of the things I’ve learned is you can’t do that. That, you know, it’s important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts. And that you’ve thought through the ramifications before you make ‘em.”
That seems kind of stupid to my thinking. You’ve got a developing situation of violence and you limit your options by sending an unarmed drone? What would be the good of being able to see with a drone, if you don’t have the capability of doing anything about what you see anyway? They already had boots on the ground reporting what was going on anyway. Not the whereabouts of Stevens, but the drone wasn’t going to see that either, was it?
That’s a good idea and a former SEAL would think of that. Kind of like those TBFs from Taffy 3 making dummy runs on Kurita’s task force off Samar in 44 to let the baby flattops excape and give time for Halsey to arrive with his fleet.Yours is a good scenario, but it leads me to another conspiratorial thought The ragheads would certainly have seen the spot. It’s not like the GLD is a briefing or classroom pointer. It has to be able to be acquired from way up. . The ragheads are painted and yet don’t move. Could they have been told no US air assets were coming? Just a question. It’s the Irish in meto answer with a question.
Yes, I am most certain it is the same hospital that they ultimately took Stevens to. Great catch!
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http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/09/201292218380199890.html
24 Sep 2012
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The spokesperson, who asked to be quoted by the pseudonym Abu Mohammed
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Days before the demonstrators forced Ansar al-Sharia from their Benghazi headquarters, Al Jazeera interviewed a senior member of the militia, and visited a hospital where it was, until Friday, providing security. (Friday Sept 19th)
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“We are busy guarding our bases and the hospital [on the night of the attack]. We did not order our members to go to the protest,” he said. “We welcome all the Western countries that help us.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/world/africa/libya-singles-out-islamist-as-a-commander-in-benghazi-consulate-attack.html
October 17, 2012
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Witnesses at the scene of the attack on the American Mission in Benghazi have said they saw Mr. Abu Khattala leading the assault, and his personal involvement is the latest link between the attack and his brigade, Ansar al-Shariah, a puritanical militant group that wants to advance Islamic law in Libya.
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But Ansar al-Shariah also guarded a local hospital and engaged in preaching and charitable work, before popular anger at the group for its role in the mission attack forced it to scatter and hide out of sight.
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Published: October 18, 2012
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But just days after President Obama reasserted his vow to bring those responsible to justice, Mr. Abu Khattala spent two leisurely hours on Thursday evening at a crowded luxury hotel, sipping a strawberry frappe on a patio and scoffing at the threats coming from the American and Libyan governments. (I recalled it being mango juice)
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Mr. Abu Khattala, 41, wearing a red fez and sandals, added his own spin. Contradicting the accounts of many witnesses and the most recent account of the Obama administration, he contended that the attack had grown out of a peaceful protest against a video made in the United States that mocked the Prophet Muhammad and Islam.
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He also said that guards inside the compound Libyan or American, he was not sure had shot first at the demonstrators, provoking them. And he asserted, without providing evidence, that the attackers had found weapons, including explosives and guns mounted with silencers, inside the American compound.
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Although Mr. Abu Khattalas exact role remains unclear, witnesses have said they saw him directing other fighters that night.
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He said he had arrived just as the gunfire was beginning to crackle and had sought to break up a traffic jam around the demonstration. After fleeing for a time, he said, he entered the compound at the end of the battle because he was asked to help try to rescue four Libyan guards working for the Americans who were trapped inside. Although the attackers had set fire to the main building, Mr. Abu Khattala said he had not noticed anything burning.
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Witnesses, Benghazi residents and Western news reports, including those in The New York Times, have described Mr. Abu Khattala as a leader of Ansar al-Shariah, whose trucks and fighters were seen attacking the mission.
What’s the punishment for TREASON?....
Wonder how Col Lakin is doing. Everything should be restored to him plus!
Slowly feed out the rope that they will hang themselves with. They're going to go Breitbart on his ass.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=picture+of+qadaffi%27s+dead+body&id=5CC0ABC87D7B510E92644C80D4738C4333462EED&FORM=IQFRBA
“Whoever gave the order to not engage made a choice and decided that the lives of four Americans were not worth as much as something else.
I wonder what it was.”
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I think it was something to do with his re-election chances. ? For whatever reason, he thought he could postpone this.
I think I am going to be physically ill.
btw I have taken out my contacts to get to bed but wanted to check FR—so please excuse me if this post or any others in the next 20 minutes have typos.
And then I saw this. G*d will judge whoever has blood on their hands. Prayers for the families...
Ping to very important article on Benghazi.
Obama and/or Hillery Clinton apparently have committed an act of treason.
What was the trade...... 5 American lives traded for someting we do not know. What was it?
There are a few interesting facts from the articles.
The dates don’t line up on the NYT article and it doesn’t line up with when the group was supposedly ousted from the hospital, Sept 19th. But the NYT says on Sept 17th they had been ousted from the hospital already. The dates don’t make sense.
Also interesting is that this guy is adamant that the anti-muslim video is the reason that the attack happened. Others in Benghazi say that just isn’t so and all was quiet before all L broke lose.
He says he went to break up a traffic jam right after the gunfire.
From timeline:
Agents pile into an armored vehicle with Smith’s body and leave through the main gate. They face immediate fire. Crowds and groups of men block two different routes to the security compound. Heavy traffic means they are traveling only about 15 mph and trying not to attract attention. On a narrow street they reach a group of men who signal for them to enter a compound. They sense an attack and speed away, taking heavy fire from AK-47 machine guns at a distance of only 2 feet and hand grenades thrown against and under the car. Two tires are blown out.
He said the attackers found weapons, explosives and guns mounted with silencers inside the compound.
Also, witnesses said that this guys trucks were seen at the attack, a truck is seen in that video of the burning compound. At the five second mark of that video, you can hear two men talking and one says I bet they’re going to kill him. Shots are heard as two men are leaving the burning building and one is inside the open door of the truck.
That video of ‘good’ Libyans saving Stevens was propaganda made for Americans. This whole thing was so dam* planned out.
This almost makes it seem like our government was in cahoots and planned this with Abu Khattala, the hospital is where it was planned to take him and not for medical help. This whole thing STINKS to high heavens and more than just gun running.
I tried re-posting a picture but it didn’t work. see my post #168. It’s Gadaffi’s dead body with the different pants. Just google ‘Gaddafi’s dead body and a slew of pictures come up.
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Hell is not hot enough for that traitorous bastid!!!
Wow, i need another drink...
If our government (Obama and ???) knew it was Abu Khattala, leader of Ansar al-Sharia and they were working with them for whatever reason. They wouldn’t fire on them, would they? Because the group would speak out to the world about whatever it was they were colluding on.
Why didn’t our FBI get right over there? Not safe my arse.
Why is Abu Khattala casually giving interviews to Aljazeera and The New York Times? Just sipping his little fruit drink.
Funny that Eric Holder was at the Arab Forum on Asset Recovery in Doha, Qatar when it happened.
THe body on the right looks like Ghaddafi.
The body on the right is GHADDAFI.
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Here’s the thing, that after all this no American soldier can in good conscience vote for Obama because of his willful disregard for their safety and the safety of their comrades in arms.
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